The Foolishly Fast and the Furiously Dangerous

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domsz4

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Anyone seen this? some pretty serious implications are hinted at here. clarity is needed because the way I read it is if you happen to be passing and your Z has a stubby you could end up on the system and have an illegal mod.

extreme case or an over reaction from me... maybe. but the wording is pretty aggressive,

don't get me wrong illegal street racing is stupid and needs to be stopped

https://trafficwmp.wordpress.com/2016/04/16/the-foolishly-fast-and-the-furiously-dangerous-operation-hercules-tackling-illegal-street-racing-2/
 
There seems to have been a similar regulation proposed every few years (last I saw was in 2012). Still a police blog scaremongering, and not thinking through all the consequences.

They can't even cope with the thousands of uninsured, banned, disqualified drivers there is currently on the road, so how would they cope with the huge increase of drivers tagged with these new guidelines?

How the fck could 'just being in the vicinity' of one of these events invalidate your insurance, or tag your car with the same 'marker' as the troublemakers :headbang:

If it does go ahead, it might go down the road of the French or German systems :?

In France you're not supposed to modify the engine from factory. If you want a faster version of the same car, then you have to buy it that way, and add any factory options you want at the time. Cosmetic mods are not controlled in the same way though.

In Germany, you can't fit an aftermarket part that hasn't be TUV approved, and you have to be able to show the TUV certificate when asked.

Would stop the cheap knock-offs of well-known brands, but may also stop some of the entry-level, genuine sellers as they'd have to pay for testing on items where there may be very little profit - and so end up not bothering for the smaller volume cars like ours.

Quite happy to have to declare everything to the insurance company though.

Won't stop the scrotes though :thumbsdown:
 
That copper is one of the reasons I'm glad I'm an ex-pat - what a bellend :thumbsdown: Overly aggressive writing, patronising and generalising.

Yes, everything he's written is bad, but ruining a 19 year old's life because he fitted a few barry mods? Get real. Sure, if he caused an accident or he was clearly out of control and "racing", that's a totally different story.

All he seems to want to do is find ways to invalidate your insurance, seize your car, throw you in jail and f**k up your life. I bet he's Mr. Perfect, moral compass for us all then, never done anything wrong in his life, goes to church, etc. :headbang:

If the Police had a bit of restraint in these situations and forced these young kids to go on more awareness courses, and worked with them, Police would have a better community relationship. I was pulled over a few times when I was young, Police never behaved like this toward me.

This is my favourite bit "if the manufacturers wanted to add those parts, they would, they are there to make money after all".

Ignorant nonce.
 
from the few things ive read this is not new legislation. its the coppers in the Midlands using any excuse to prosecute. they are saying that if your watching your part of the issue. pull the car and go to town on anything that can stick. what's not clear is what is and isn't allowed.

what i would want clarifying is some of the comments like the last paragraphs. basically saying so you're law abiding declared your mods etc but then they are going to say they are not safe. such as the exhausts being changed. what makes it unsafe?

the language in the article was really poor and has probably done more to antagonise people than it has raise awareness and support from the car community
 
stuartinzg said:
That copper is one of the reasons I'm glad I'm an ex-pat - what a bellend :thumbsdown: Overly aggressive writing, patronising and generalising.

Yes, everything he's written is bad, but ruining a 19 year old's life because he fitted a few barry mods? Get real. Sure, if he caused an accident or he was clearly out of control and "racing", that's a totally different story.

All he seems to want to do is find ways to invalidate your insurance, seize your car, throw you in jail and f**k up your life. I bet he's Mr. Perfect, moral compass for us all then, never done anything wrong in his life, goes to church, etc. :headbang:

If the Police had a bit of restraint in these situations and forced these young kids to go on more awareness courses, and worked with them, Police would have a better community relationship. I was pulled over a few times when I was young, Police never behaved like this toward me.

This is my favourite bit "if the manufacturers wanted to add those parts, they would, they are there to make money after all".

Ignorant nonce.
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Couldn't of put it better myself.

Lets stick a 17 year old in prison full of rapists and murderers, Seems like a great way to set someone up for life. :headbang:

Meh!
 
Some of the entries in that blog, not just the street racing entry, do raise serious points and I bet that a number of us would agree with a lot of the points raised if they came up in a discussion down the pub - it's more the the author's sanctimonious tone and 'lock-em-up' zealotry that raises my hackles...
 
PerryGunn said:
Some of the entries in that blog, not just the street racing entry, do raise serious points and I bet that a number of us would agree with a lot of the points raised if they came up in a discussion down the pub - it's more the the author's sanctimonious tone and 'lock-em-up' zealotry that raises my hackles...[/quote

Absolutely agree 100%
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PerryGunn said:
Some of the entries in that blog, not just the street racing entry, do raise serious points and I bet that a number of us would agree with a lot of the points raised if they came up in a discussion down the pub - it's more the the author's sanctimonious tone and 'lock-em-up' zealotry that raises my hackles...
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You can drive before you are even technically a man in the eyes of the law. For a lot of these kids, it's seen as harmless fun - 99.9% of the time there are no repercussions, it's only the idiots that ruin it for everyone. Fitting a different exhaust, intake, or alloy wheels, is NOT going to make the car a death trap - but his copper seems to think he's saving all the kittens by "throwing the book" at these kids. Have they ever been to the US? The car modding scene is huge, they haven't all imploded. Typical cotton wool generation of the UK - can't even have sports day at some schools because "everyone is a winner".

I can understand the Police who work in city centres full of chavs who go on rampages - I used to live in Bristol so I know what it's like, but even still, most of these lads are just bored and looking for ways to vent their energy and frustration. Why not give them approved carparks/areas they can "play", at least it can be controlled.
 
PerryGunn said:
Some of the entries in that blog, not just the street racing entry, do raise serious points and I bet that a number of us would agree with a lot of the points raised if they came up in a discussion down the pub - it's more the the author's sanctimonious tone and 'lock-em-up' zealotry that raises my hackles...
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Totally. I can understand some mods being seen as dangerous. Over stretched tyres for example where the bead sits wrong. But a can't see how an exhaust is or a changed stereo? If so how do the multitude of the companies exist?

It would be good for the West mids police to clarify what is and isn't allowed.
 
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