The best 3.0 manual I've owned- reduced
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Spaldingski
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Cheers for the comments and feedback all- it’s a gift and I don’t take it personally (despite someone saying I’m a keyboard warrior a couple of weeks ago?!?)
Chances of me getting this price- low I know that. But I’ll still talk to anyone interested!
And yes Chris the spacers on the front but not the rear is right- I had 20mm on the rear and it looked awful!!
Stuart
Cheers for the comments and feedback all- it’s a gift and I don’t take it personally (despite someone saying I’m a keyboard warrior a couple of weeks ago?!?)
Chances of me getting this price- low I know that. But I’ll still talk to anyone interested!
And yes Chris the spacers on the front but not the rear is right- I had 20mm on the rear and it looked awful!!
Stuart
craig3.2 said:IRD said:I have seen this car and have had a lot of work done on my car by Stuart. So I know that he is very thorough in what he does and the work completed is to a high standard. Anybody buying it will get a very well sorted car. We all know that buying twenty year old cars is a bit of a lottery. But what Stuart has done is taken the uncertainty out of the situation because he has dealt with likely problems. GLWTS.
I agree,IRD, it's a lovely looking z,with plenty of age related work having been done.
Still stand by my opinion of the £.
No doubt whatsoever,it looks a nice z.
Couldn’t agree more Craig. What is the point of Forums like this if members can’t express their honestly held views? For me, as long as people express themselves politely and with respect ( which is what you did) that’s how it should be. At times we can agree to differ. Nothing wrong with that.
craig3.2 said:enuff_zed said:craig3.2 said:Doing 10k of Mods,or in this case Thousands and Thousands of pounds of Repairs, general maintenance and preventative maintenance/repair items likr Vanos etc doesn't add £££ thousands of pounds value to a car.
£7k is a lot for a 2003,140k mile z4,
regardless how much repair work has been done to it.
There's currently a 2007 2.5si ,facelift z4 with 112k miles on AT for £5700( similar power to an 03 3.0), and a 2008 Sapphire Black 89k miles 3.0si for £7000.
Glwts,op
Tbh, my reaction was not to the price of Stuart's car, but to the flippant and completely un-needed comment added to the thread.
I admit the car will never be worth the sum of it's parts but I'd rather pay £7k for that than £10k for one with no provenance.
Comments like these are made on here,and other forums many many times,by many people, and often without criticism.....so why criticise my post when it's a fair comment .
Many other long term forum members have commented in the past about cars for sale being a bit steep in their ask.
Didn't see you giving those other forum members stick?
The car for sale is very nice,but 7k is a bit much for an 03 reg,140k mile car.
As said,if others don't agree,and think it's a reasonable ask,then fair enough......am I not allowed to give my opinion?
If the 7k ask is right,it will sell easily for that price,and I will be wrong.
I didn't criticise your post at all Craig.
If you read back I commented on someone else's input, which you then replied to.
You started it! Ner-ner-ni-ner-ner!
IRD said:craig3.2 said:IRD said:I have seen this car and have had a lot of work done on my car by Stuart. So I know that he is very thorough in what he does and the work completed is to a high standard. Anybody buying it will get a very well sorted car. We all know that buying twenty year old cars is a bit of a lottery. But what Stuart has done is taken the uncertainty out of the situation because he has dealt with likely problems. GLWTS.
I agree,IRD, it's a lovely looking z,with plenty of age related work having been done.
Still stand by my opinion of the £.
No doubt whatsoever,it looks a nice z.
Couldn’t agree more Craig. What is the point of Forums like this if members can’t express their honestly held views? For me, as long as people express themselves politely and with respect ( which is what you did) that’s how it should be. At times we can agree to differ. Nothing wrong with that.
Zedebee said:
Gotcha. See it now. Makes sense indeed.
And re the asking price debate, for my 2 cents, in that colour, with those mods and maintenance provenance I think it's worth every penny!
These are now in 'appreciating classics' territory and even with 140km on the motor it will be good for another 140k miles if looked after properly.
Stuart, maybe it's a good idea to do a compression test and throw up the figures for all cylinders for comparison to the figures as new. That will give a positive indication of the engine's health. My E36 coupe M52B25TU was still within as-new spec at 285k miles. A pleasant surprise.
craig3.2 said:IRD said:
I agree with Ian. My comment was not (as already expalined) aimed at you Craig. You are correct in that you are within your rights to say whatever you think, if kept within the bounds of good manners.
My reaction was to what I saw as an unwarranted dig, by someone other than you, at the asking price which served to do nothing more than undermine Stuart's advert and without a shred of substantiation.
Indeed, I too have a Sterling Grey 3.0i with only 25k on the clock. Therefore it simply has to be worth a minimum of £15k.
Oh, I may have forgotten to mention that I parked it under a lime tree 15 years ago and it hasn't moved since.
Unitedleeds1919
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I’d close this thread and restart it...why does a for sale post not stay a for sale post thread? Banter is good always especially in the present climate but i have had a couple of wnkrs on here butt in and fk things up, why not go in the lounge and play?
Hey, it’s all good publicity and keeps this thread in everybody’s newsfeed.
The nearest competition on here is boxclever’s toledo Blue 3.0 Manual, which I nearly bought but it needed a bit of cosmetic work which I couldn’t do myself. At 4000 on similar miles I thought it was OK value.
Add 800 for the MSport seats, 500 for the 224s and 1,000 for the very extensive maintenance and no real cosmetic issues to attend to, then you’re in the ballpark. Ask yourself how much you value peace of mind?
The nearest competition on here is boxclever’s toledo Blue 3.0 Manual, which I nearly bought but it needed a bit of cosmetic work which I couldn’t do myself. At 4000 on similar miles I thought it was OK value.
Add 800 for the MSport seats, 500 for the 224s and 1,000 for the very extensive maintenance and no real cosmetic issues to attend to, then you’re in the ballpark. Ask yourself how much you value peace of mind?
Zedebee said:
And I'm pretty sure Stuart is of a similar mind to me. We take pride in our work and should something be found to be less than perfect it will be called back to sort it. Especially with the whole forum watching!
The 3.0i auto I sold on a couple of months back has been back to sort an issue that occurred and will most likely come back for services which will cost the owner for parts plus a beer!
So a small percentage of the asking price is for an unofficial warranty that is probably worth more than that offered by most professional dealers.
MikeyH said:And this is why I wished I lived closer to the both of you
We'd drive you mad!
And anyway, neither of us have any room for your car.
You think I jest but this morning Jock156 (Brian) popped over to pick up a few bits off the 2.0 I'm breaking and couldn't fit his zed on the drive as there were already four on it!
(Plus my E89 in the garage)
enuff_zed said:MikeyH said:And this is why I wished I lived closer to the both of you
We'd drive you mad!
And anyway, neither of us have any room for your car.
You think I jest but this morning Jock156 (Brian) popped over to pick up a few bits off the 2.0 I'm breaking and couldn't fit his zed on the drive as there were already four on it!
(Plus my E89 in the garage)
That’s just greedy
Rob
Zedebee said:
You can't just compare to what's on here.....look at the wider market,private ads,garages ,Autotrader,etc etc.
And that's my point,things like M sports seats don't add £800 of value to a z4 that's nearly 20 years old,or a set of second hand 224 m alloys add £500, or Thousands of pounds of maintenance and repairs don't add £1000 of value.
Generally speaking,these things are all great,and desirable,but it's very like options on a new car...... spending £5k in options only would add around £500 to £1000 come resale time,at say 3 or 4 years old,as a broad guide,IE about 10/20% of the cost of those options or extras.
The right options do add some value,more than others, but some just make it easier to sell.
Same in this case, that's all i was saying.
Yes I can, it’s an examplecraig3.2 said:
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Not true, particularly for this age of car. There’s an established market for M sports seats, 224M alloys etc and these are factored into prices. I accept that the same doesn’t apply to preventative maintenance, but in this case you know exactly what you’re getting, hence my comment about peace of mind.
Zedebee said:
We'll have to disagree on that then.
I think others would agree,I wouldn't pay the sum of the parts,adding £800 of second hand seats and £500 on second hand alloys, and a £1000 spent on an aero kit,hypathetically speaking,and £1500 on repairs and maintenance, doesn't make a ,say £4000 z4 worth £7800, or a £10k z4 worth £13800.
It's always been the case,that options from new,and added parts,or mods,regardless how much they cost,don't add the same value of what they cost to add,be it new or second hand parts.
It’s difficult comparing prices on here with the wider world, i. e. AT. Members on here mostly understand that M-Sport seats and 224s are desirable to have and a car maintained by a member does give peace of mind to many. Those looking and selling on the likes of AT mostly haven’t a clue, including dealers, so these things don’t add to the price that they should over ones without them. Of course this is only my own opinion
