That took some balls

[Vornwend]

Its all a pack of lies that took them 3 days to construct.

He drove 260 miles but didn't stop once - even if that was true he must have thought it would be a possibility before he set off so was prepared to take the risk of infecting others? The government instruction was to stay at home and not travel to less populated areas that risked infecting others and putting stress on rural services.

A hospital with no taxis available?

The day trip, aka eye test, to the Castle was on his wife's birthday - strange coincidence that. Even Andrew Windsor's non sweating condition was more credible.

The police will have zero chance of effectively enforcing any lock down in the future and that will cost lives but this man is more important.

"The guidance doesn't say you've just got to sit there." he said

If you had a dying parent/child/funeral/abusive partner you just 'sat there' and followed the rules - you fools

Millions of people have been cheated and they will not forget this

 

[ronk]

I note the 4 1/2 hr journey north was without a stop - yet the child needed a toilet after a 1/2hr eye testing trip ?

 

[Tinker15]

Yes it must be really upsetting for the MSM and lefties to realise that they haven’t achieved their aim of getting rid of Cummings. In the meantime Boris is sat on an 80 seat majority with over 4 years before the next election. He must be crying himself to sleep of a night. Oh and by the end of the year the transition period ends.

 

[exdos]

Before any one makes a judgment on Dominic Cummings, have a read of this about Fergus Walsh, the BBC's Medical Correspondent. Walsh claims: "I was gobsmacked to test positive for coronavirus antibodies". [b]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52762939[/b]

Throughout the period of Lockdown, that bloke (and lots of other TV journalists and presenters) has been recorded wandering around all over the place, including being inside ICUs full of very seriously ill Covid-19 patients near death's door and Care Homes, then sitting in TV studios in relatively close proximity to his colleagues in front of cameras broadcasting. If he knows anything about his subject, as a medical correspondent, how the hell can he claim to be "gobsmacked" that he's been infected by C-19 after where he's been filming? Whilst he was infected and continuing to wander around with impunity, he's obviously been acting as an infection-spreader.

What section of the The Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020 gives those in the media the right to do as they please and sanctimoniously act as judge of parents doing what they believe to be in the best interests of their children?

The media has absolutely no need to incessantly report on the C-19 epidemic during lockdown and if it feels it needs to keep broadcasting 24/7 it has plenty material that it can run as repeats between the normal News airings.

For me, I'm afraid that the hypocrisy lies entirely with the media rather than with Dominic Cummings.

 

[ronk]

There are some in his own party who didn’t see his actions as above board and also seek his resignation so it’s not only the lefties. He has become a victim of his own success. The ads are still on the radio tonight telling us “ If you or any of your family have the symptoms you must stay at home” it didn’t give any wiggle room and it should apply to all. He has just been caught out and is now wriggling and coming up with excuses. He is good at that, it’s his job after all so we should expect a plausible excuse or reason.

I would have had more respect for the man if he had just said opps, sorry fair cop!

I’m afraid there are very few in any party who can be trusted - All parties have had their indiscretions ! It’s all a big game to them - they’ve been at it for years.

Trust none of them!

 

[Smartbear]

Before any one makes a judgment on Dominic Cummings, have a read of this about Fergus Walsh, the BBC's Medical Correspondent. Walsh claims: "I was gobsmacked to test positive for coronavirus antibodies". [b]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52762939[/b]

Throughout the period of Lockdown, that bloke (and lots of other TV journalists and presenters) has been recorded wandering around all over the place, including being inside ICUs full of very seriously ill Covid-19 patients near death's door and Care Homes, then sitting in TV studios in relatively close proximity to his colleagues in front of cameras broadcasting. If he knows anything about his subject, as a medical correspondent, how the hell can he claim to be "gobsmacked" that he's been infected by C-19 after where he's been filming? Whilst he was infected and continuing to wander around with impunity, he's obviously been acting as an infection-spreader.

What section of the The Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020 gives those in the media the right to do as they please and sanctimoniously act as judge of parents doing what they believe to be in the best interests of their children?

The media has absolutely no need to incessantly report on the C-19 epidemic during lockdown and if it feels it needs to keep broadcasting 24/7 it has plenty material that it can run as repeats between the normal News airings.

For me, I'm afraid that the hypocrisy lies entirely with the media rather than with Dominic Cummings.

+1
The complaining is coming from frustrated remainers, it’s about Brexit & this is the current thing to bash the government with.
Rob

 

[Nick_in_Suffolk]

Dummings, and his glove puppet BoJo, are attempting far more damage to the UK than the madness of Brekshit. Their plans for a no-deal Brekshit and privatisation of the NHS are unacceptable and will wreak untold of damage to most people, but not to those who are already too rich to ever worry. More division in this country; far, far away from the 'levelling-up' promised by the tawdry liar masquerading as a poltiician.

 

[Tinker15]

Their plans for a no-deal Brekshit and privatisation of the NHS are unacceptable

Brekshit : How absolutely hilarious. The normal Momentum/Labour twaddle about privatising the NHS etc etc. Throw in sock puppet and bash the rich and you’ve got it all covered. Pathetic!

 

[Vornwend]

A large part of the press behave disgracefully but there's nothing like a bit of whataboutery to deflect attention from a clear wrong.

For better or worse Brexit is irreversible. I do think its quite revealing that Leavers are still so sensitive they need to keep bringing it up as an explanation for criticism of current failures though.

Also worth noting that biased left wing remoaners now include:

* Julia Hartley-Brewer
* Iain Dale
* Tim Montgomerie
* The chief executive of Conservative Home
* A Tory minister
* Tory backbenchers
* The Daily Mail

 

[Nictrix]

I would have had more respect for the man if he had just said opps, sorry fair cop!

He couldnt say sorry as that would mean he knows he was wrong.
They will stick together and cover each others arses making any excuse to cover what any of them has done.
Just look at this thread itself, you can tell the tory lovers by the way they strike out at others who dont agree with them.

 

[ronk]

I’m told that Cummings sister is a director of the company doing the track and trace app.

 

[Tinker15]

Also worth noting that biased left wing remoaners now include:

It doesn't matter who they are. The Brexit argument was decided on the 23rd June 2016. As it happens I voted remain as would anyone who owns a property in France and normally spends 6 months of the year over there. Coming out of the EU causes all sorts of problems for us including the inconvenience of obtaining a visa to stay for longer then 3 months and the associated cost. However, the majority didn't agree with me and in a democracy I accept that. What stuck in my throat was the attempt by certain sections of the media, political parties and others to overturn a vote that rightly or wrongly was decided by the public. The line taken by Jo Swinson summed it up perfectly. Not that it did her much good.

The fact that here we are nearly 4 years down the line is a sad reflection on all who tried to overturn the will of the people.

 

[enuff_zed]

Jut to add my thoughts:
What concerns me more is not what this chap did, or whether it was right or wrong.
It is the fact that, for a man in his position, with access to all the facts and knowing full well what the press is like, he was still naive enough to carry on and do it.
Maybe he didn't stop to think? Or maybe he thought it was ok? Or maybe he thought he'd 'get way with it'? Whichever it was, he should have had enough nous to think it over first?
Someone with that basic lack of understanding for politics and the press is surely going to make further mistakes in the future? Do we want him in an influential position in this country?

 

[Tinker15]

Maybe he didn't stop to think? Or maybe he thought it was ok? Or maybe he thought he'd 'get way with it'? Whichever it was, he should have had enough nous to think it over first?

Or maybe he was just thinking of his wife and 4 year old autistic son. I would guess he knows more about the press and politics than me so I couldn't think of commenting on his fitness to do a particular job.

 

[enuff_zed]

Maybe he didn't stop to think? Or maybe he thought it was ok? Or maybe he thought he'd 'get way with it'? Whichever it was, he should have had enough nous to think it over first?

Or maybe he was just thinking of his wife and 4 year old autistic son. I would guess he knows more about the press and politics than me so I couldn't think of commenting on his fitness to do a particular job.

But that was kind of my point. In a position such as that, do we really want someone who reacts with his heart, not his head.
I commend him for putting his family first, but surely stop to think of the bigger picture.
And I have to say, I don't think his son's autism is a factor.
Anyway, that's just my opinion.

 

[Vornwend]

Jut to add my thoughts:
What concerns me more is not what this chap did, or whether it was right or wrong.
It is the fact that, for a man in his position, with access to all the facts and knowing full well what the press is like, he was still naive enough to carry on and do it.
Maybe he didn't stop to think? Or maybe he thought it was ok? Or maybe he thought he'd 'get way with it'? Whichever it was, he should have had enough nous to think it over first?
Someone with that basic lack of understanding for politics and the press is surely going to make further mistakes in the future? Do we want him in an influential position in this country?

Exactly. Also shows a total lack of empathy with the majority of the public who have adhered to the rules in the spirit they were set. He also changed his blog in recent days so he could claim he called out risk of a pandemic long ago - a cheat and a liar just like his boss. You don't need to be on a particular side of the Brexit debate to know that.

But we can always vote him out - oh wait he's another one of those unelected officials that we object to so much:wink:

 

[Tinker15]

But we can always vote him out - oh wait he's another one of those unelected officials that we object to so much

Yes but you can vote out his boss in which case his unelected officials go with him. You'll have to wait 4 years but there you go. Anyway won't Scotland be independent by then?

 

[Smartbear]

A large part of the press behave disgracefully but there's nothing like a bit of whataboutery to deflect attention from a clear wrong.

For better or worse Brexit is irreversible. I do think its quite revealing that Leavers are still so sensitive they need to keep bringing it up as an explanation for criticism of current failures though.

Also worth noting that biased left wing remoaners now include:

* Julia Hartley-Brewer
* Iain Dale
* Tim Montgomerie
* The chief executive of Conservative Home
* A Tory minister
* Tory backbenchers
* The Daily Mail

I haven’t seen any sensitive leave voters in this thread, only a sensitive remain voter who resorted to immature swearing.
Everybody else has kept the toys inside of the pram.
Rob

 

[Vornwend]

A large part of the press behave disgracefully but there's nothing like a bit of whataboutery to deflect attention from a clear wrong.

For better or worse Brexit is irreversible. I do think its quite revealing that Leavers are still so sensitive they need to keep bringing it up as an explanation for criticism of current failures though.

Also worth noting that biased left wing remoaners now include:

* Julia Hartley-Brewer
* Iain Dale
* Tim Montgomerie
* The chief executive of Conservative Home
* A Tory minister
* Tory backbenchers
* The Daily Mail

I haven’t seen any sensitive leave voters in this thread, only a sensitive remain voter who resorted to immature swearing.
Everybody else has kept the toys inside of the pram.
Rob

Its not about Brexit though is it. Its about the standards we expect from those in power. If we continue to look at everything thorough a Brexit lens we will never see the truth in front of our eyes. My point was that this goes beyond what side of the Brexit divide you were on. You gov published a poll today that would seem to support this view as it shows 63% of leave voters think what Cummings did broke the rules.

 

[stuartC]

Yet you're happy for the press to stand outside his front garden, all crowded with no social distancing whatsoever? Going by your thought process, they should all lose their jobs aswell?

I've seen this crap trotted out by a few Tory apologists on various platforms.

Literally NO-ONE is "happy" about the behaviour of the press, including but not limited to intrusive behaviour, lies, phone tapping, social distancing & hounding people.

Those of us with a shred of morality can see their behaviour is utterly appalling, as we have done for years.

Just as we can also see Cummings clearly did not act from any moral standpoint. He acted from the same sense of entitlement & elite privilege as the rest of them. A day out on a sunny Bank Holiday Sunday to a known tourist destination that also happens to be the wife's birthday, to test his eyesight? ?

Jesus H Christ, if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

Good grief.