Tax by day not month petition

thepits said:
dr_john said:
it also said that the total signed is now 189, we need 100,000 (by next March).

Don't know how long 189 has taken so can't do the calculation, but we better get going!

Yes we should as I've done the rough calculations :)

Running 5 1/2 hours with only 189 posts = 2,910 days for 100,000 = almost 8 years :o
Anticipate exponential growth - it's the doubling time you need to calculate :thumbsup:
 
The two LR forums I posted it on half an hour ago have added another 10 or so already...
 
BMWZ4MC said:
I'm just a carpenter, I keep epidemiologists for the tedious stuff :P

Eh? "Epidemiology is the science that studies the patterns, causes, and effects of health and disease conditions in defined populations" :?


nowadays the term exponential function is almost exclusively used as a shortcut for the natural exponential function ex, where e is Euler's number, a number (approximately 2.718281828) such that the function ex is its own derivative.[1][2] The exponential function is used to model a relationship in which a constant change in the independent variable gives the same proportional change (i.e. percentage increase or decrease) in the dependent variable. The function is often written as exp(x), especially when it is impractical to write the independent variable as a superscript. The exponential function is widely used in physics, chemistry, engineering, mathematical biology, economics and mathematics.

Exponential function

Representation e^x \,
Inverse \ln x \,
Derivative e^x \,
Indefinite Integral e^x + C \,

The graph of y = ex is upward-sloping, and increases faster as x increases. The graph always lies above the x-axis but can get arbitrarily close to it for negative x; thus, the x-axis is a horizontal asymptote. The slope of the tangent to the graph at each point is equal to its y coordinate at that point. The inverse function is the natural logarithm ln(x); because of this, some old texts[3] refer to the exponential function as the antilogarithm.

In general, the variable x can be any real or complex number or even an entirely different kind of mathematical object; see the formal definition below.

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Problem is, exponential decay is just as possible as exponential growth unless we get our collective finger out! Analysis of linear rate (above) has shown it will take 8 years to achieve the target.

I've just posted the link to the petition on LinkedIn, everybody do the same with their social networking sites (Facebook etc, whatever). :thumbsup:
 
thepits said:
BMWZ4MC said:
I'm just a carpenter, I keep epidemiologists for the tedious stuff :P

Eh? "Epidemiology is the science that studies the patterns, causes, and effects of health and disease conditions in defined populations" :?


nowadays the term exponential function is almost exclusively used as a shortcut for the natural exponential function ex, where e is Euler's number, a number (approximately 2.718281828) such that the function ex is its own derivative.[1][2] The exponential function is used to model a relationship in which a constant change in the independent variable gives the same proportional change (i.e. percentage increase or decrease) in the dependent variable. The function is often written as exp(x), especially when it is impractical to write the independent variable as a superscript. The exponential function is widely used in physics, chemistry, engineering, mathematical biology, economics and mathematics.

Exponential function

Representation e^x \,
Inverse \ln x \,
Derivative e^x \,
Indefinite Integral e^x + C \,

The graph of y = ex is upward-sloping, and increases faster as x increases. The graph always lies above the x-axis but can get arbitrarily close to it for negative x; thus, the x-axis is a horizontal asymptote. The slope of the tangent to the graph at each point is equal to its y coordinate at that point. The inverse function is the natural logarithm ln(x); because of this, some old texts[3] refer to the exponential function as the antilogarithm.

In general, the variable x can be any real or complex number or even an entirely different kind of mathematical object; see the formal definition below.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :tumbleweed:

Exactly - epidemiologists are likely in a frenzy fretting about the exponential growth of Ebola even as we type... Here's hoping this petition has the government as worried :P
 
I think you'll find that epidemiology also covers the rate of spread of infectious disease - such as the current ebola outbreak. Some quite complex maths can be involved as there are a lot of factors to account for, each of which can vary over a range causing growth estimates to lose precision as they are projected further ahead
 
Typical - type in a long answer and find the Doc has got in with a quick one :lol:
 
PerryGunn said:
I think you'll find that epidemiology also covers the rate of spread of infectious disease - such as the current ebola outbreak. Some quite complex maths can be involved as there are a lot of factors to account for, each of which can vary over a range causing growth estimates to lose precision as they are projected further ahead
Which is why I stick to the carpentry :wink:
 
PerryGunn said:
Typical - type in a long answer and find the Doc has got in with a quick one :lol:
I didn't waste time trying to comprehend the ramble from the pits, rather got on with writing my reply :lol:
 
BMWZ4MC said:
PerryGunn said:
I think you'll find that epidemiology also covers the rate of spread of infectious disease - such as the current ebola outbreak. Some quite complex maths can be involved as there are a lot of factors to account for, each of which can vary over a range causing growth estimates to lose precision as they are projected further ahead
Which is why I stick to the carpentry :wink:
If I'm honest, I'm more impressed by the reverse tracking of outbreaks to look for the index case - that sort of analysis is really complicated
 
I agree, it can be fascinating - I'm not much of a mathematician anymore (not since A level days), but I can appreciate the intellect behind such things. Now biomechanics and orthopaedic engineering on the other hand, they are elements of basic science that I really do enjoy.

Oh, and petition signed :thumbsup:
 
PerryGunn said:
Typical - type in a long answer and find the Doc has got in with a quick one :lol:

:rofl:

I don't think the long answer was typed in, seemed more like a copy and paste job from Wikipedia to me :D

Quick short answers are best, leave one less open to criticsm.

:P
 
dr_john said:
PerryGunn said:
Typical - type in a long answer and find the Doc has got in with a quick one :lol:

:rofl:

I don't think the long answer was typed in, seemed more like a copy and paste job from Wikipedia to me :D

Quick short answers are best, leave one less open to criticsm.

:P

Perhaps
 
WTF happened to the thread. :?

Have Mystic Meg, Aristotle and Archimedes finished discussing complicated stuff I don't understand now. :wink:

Signed any way. :thumbsup:
 
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