Talking of points on your licence

[r2uzenblot]

I see a high profile sprinter person amassed 29 points on her licence, didn't respond to letters asking for the identity of the driver and has previously committed a number of other offences. What a lenient penalty - .........a fine of £276, a surcharge of £110 and £85 costs. Having spent over 20 years on the bench the sentencing guidelines for someone who was a prolific offender would be a bit more than what was awarded.

Is it a surprise that the police might stop someone who has multiple points on their licence (11 at the time)? You can't mention this though as you'd be called a racist...............

 

[Rockhopper]

It certainly used to be the case that the Police don't have access to the number of points on your licence and they are not allowed to ask you about it when you are stopped (as it might prejudice their later decisions). However what happens these days is that the officer may recognise someone they have previously reported for prosecution and stop them again just in case. I also know that they visit homes of drivers they know have been banned to see if the car is in the drive or not!

 

[Nictrix]

I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.

 

[Nanu]

I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.

Is it the same person who was stopped with her boyfriend and claimed it was racism despite the windows of the car being, how can I say, unable to be seen through?

 

[Mr Tidy]

If it's who I think it is she did get a 6 month ban, and 18 of those 29 points for not making a driver declaration on 3 separate occasions.

Ironic Christian name though!

 

[pvr]

You mean she who cannot be mentioned could not name her boyfriend as he would lose his Amazon drivers job …

Not difficult to find though, who is insured on the car. Hmm, two people and it wasn’t you

 

[SV8Predator]

Is it a surprise that the police might stop someone who has multiple points on their licence (11 at the time)? You can't mention this though as you'd be called a racist...............

How would the police know that the (so far unidentified) driver of a car has "multiple points on their licence"?

I'm sure, having spent over 20 years on the bench, you'll be able to answer?

 

[Nictrix]

I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.

Is it the same person who was stopped with her boyfriend and claimed it was racism despite the windows of the car being, how can I say, unable to be seen through?

Im sure it is

 

[BeeEmm]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67613292

 

[r2uzenblot]

I think I read that a couple of cops lost their jobs in another altercation with this person.

Is it the same person who was stopped with her boyfriend and claimed it was racism despite the windows of the car being, how can I say, unable to be seen through?

Im sure it is

Is it a surprise that the police might stop someone who has multiple points on their licence (11 at the time)? You can't mention this though as you'd be called a racist...............

How would the police know that the (so far unidentified) driver of a car has "multiple points on their licence"?

I'm sure, having spent over 20 years on the bench, you'll be able to answer?

I was on the bench and not in the police force but from my time there I was told that police do put out markers on car registrations. This could be for possible criminal activity, repeat offending from someone driving that vehicle or a number of other related things. So, yes, I believe that the police are able to tell through ANPR if the vehicle is one that has been drawn to their attention in the past.

 

[SV8Predator]

I believe that the police are able to tell through ANPR if the vehicle is one that has been drawn to their attention in the past.

Certainly, if the car is "marked". That is what "marked" means. But a car does not get marked because a potential driver has points on his/her licence, which is what you were claiming.

 

[r2uzenblot]

I believe that the police are able to tell through ANPR if the vehicle is one that has been drawn to their attention in the past.

Certainly, if the car is "marked". That is what "marked" means. But a car does not get marked because a potential driver has points on his/her licence, which is what you were claiming.

That's not quite true. Again it depends what the points were for. If there is a propensity to commit offences then there can be a marker on the car. It can be for criminal activities, it can be anti-social behaviour and it can be for repeat traffic offences that attract points. A good example of this is a driver with a bald tyre who then gets done for two more different offences for bald tyres within a relatively short time. The police may well have a marker on his vehicle to be stopped to check that he no longer is driving with bald tyres.

 

[SV8Predator]

Again it depends what the points were for.

You keep twisting and bending the semantics to try to make a case for your blatantly wrong supposition.

Again, a car does not get marked because a potential driver has points on his/her licence, which is what you were claiming.

 

[Rockhopper]

- Stolen Vehicle Marker: Indicates that the vehicle has been reported as stolen.
- Suspected Vehicle Marker: Used when the vehicle is suspected of being involved in criminal activities.
- Witness Vehicle Marker: Designates a vehicle that witnessed a crime or an incident of interest.
- Abandoned Vehicle Marker: Applied to vehicles that have been abandoned or left in restricted areas.
- ANPR Marker: Associated with Automatic Number Plate Recognition systems to monitor vehicles of interest.

 

[pvr]

DWB marker - driving whilst black

(they claimed)

 

[AndyBeech]

Again it depends what the points were for.

You keep twisting and bending the semantics to try to make a case for your blatantly wrong supposition.

Again, a car does not get marked because a potential driver has points on his/her licence, which is what you were claiming.

Yup, only a license check would tell you about points / driver convictions. Car reg alone would never be marked for that.

It certainly used to be the case that the Police don't have access to the number of points on your licence and they are not allowed to ask you about it when you are stopped (as it might prejudice their later decisions).

Since when? You can ask whatever you want, what decisions would it prejudice exactly?

 

[Rockhopper]

If you already had ten points and got stopped for speeding with potentially another three points on the way they might be tempted to let you off. The opposite could also apply if they felt in the mood.

 

[AndyBeech]

If you already had ten points and got stopped for speeding with potentially another three points on the way they might be tempted to let you off. The opposite could also apply if they felt in the mood.

Discretion has always been a tool whether it's known how many points they have or not, chances are they would already know what they're going to do before they even get that information. But as to the point, they could use whatever information they are legally allowed to have to make a decision, long as the end result could be justified should any questions be asked.