T.V Licence.

domsz4 said:
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Flyingfifer said:
If they ever turn up to your door, grab your phone and record them (they cant stop you, its not illegal and you are 100% entitled to do so), DO NOT answer any questions at all, literally nothing at all (if they ask the the sky is blue... don't answer) just stand there in silence although these days I would maybe just *cough* "I think I might have COVID" :rofl: .
They are just normal folk, they have no authority, their wee badges are meaningless (they aren't officers of anything). They have no right to access or enter your property no different to me turning up to your house and asking to check your TV.

Typically as soon as you turn up with your phone recording them they will walk away. :thumbsup:
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You could try my Jehovah Witness method of inviting them in and keeping them busy for a couple of hours, explaining my theological viewpoint on energy and spirit being one and science is just god anyway.
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To be fair, I only got to try it once, but it was on the pretty young blonde one.

He couldn't wait to get out of there!
 
I haven’t had a tv license for a good number of years now, I think since approx 2010.
I live in NL but have a property in the UK. It’s now actually rented out to a family who do have a tv license but for the 5 years it wasn’t occupied I went through a right pallava with tv licensing and had to prove I or anyone else for that matter, wasn’t in residence there and that there were no facilities for receiving bbc content.
In my experience the tv licensing agency a bunch of extortionist small-print nazi b@stards and the scare-tactics they employ should be criminalised!
When I tell friends in NL that you need a license to use a tv they find it unbelievable how pursuant and aggressive the licensing nazis are.
Bonkers! De-fund the BBC!

This makes for interesting reading and spare a thought for our Danish and Swiss friends who are subject to approx double the cost for a mandatory license:
https://www.idealo.co.uk/magazine/2019/08/09/much-tv-licence-cost-around-europe/

I chuckled when the author suggests that bakeoff is worth the license fee alone. Drrrrp.
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Edit: I might add that because of all the threats of legal action and the convoluted situation that ensued that my new tenants were still receiving threatening letters addressed to me a year after they had been living there and having their own license! :x
 
Its started. They emailed me today from Darlington asking for the date the tv was last needed, :lol:

Straight in the trash. :thumbsup:
 
Can you non licence payers put your hand on heart and say that you never ever watch a BBC prog.?
 
Flyingfifer said:
ronk said:
Can you non licence payers put your hand on heart and say that you never ever watch a BBC prog.?
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Yes, I can :)
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It's any live TV channel not just the BBC. It doesn't matter if you're watching a live broadcast from the other side of the world, and it doesn’t matter what kind of device you use to watch live television on, or how you collect and process the signal. You’re still watching live TV if you get the feed from an aerial, a cable network, a satellite dish, a wifi hotspot or any other internet server it's still classed as live TV.
 
Bombardino said:
It's any live TV channel not just the BBC. It doesn't matter if you're watching a live broadcast from the other side of the world, and it doesn’t matter what kind of device you use to watch live television on, or how you collect and process the signal. You’re still watching live TV if you get the feed from an aerial, a cable network, a satellite dish, a wifi hotspot or any other internet server it's still classed as live TV.
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Does that include just watching ITV for example, or having Sky and only watching Sky News? (not saying people do, just asking as an extreme example).

Don't see how they justify that, its effectively a tax on viewing program content regardless of provider? But the BBC cash in on the money.
 
ihadablackdog said:
Bombardino said:
It's any live TV channel not just the BBC. It doesn't matter if you're watching a live broadcast from the other side of the world, and it doesn’t matter what kind of device you use to watch live television on, or how you collect and process the signal. You’re still watching live TV if you get the feed from an aerial, a cable network, a satellite dish, a wifi hotspot or any other internet server it's still classed as live TV.
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Does that include just watching ITV for example, or having Sky and only watching Sky News? (not saying people do, just asking as an extreme example).

Don't see how they justify that, its effectively a tax on viewing program content regardless of provider? But the BBC cash in on the money.
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The basic rule is that you must have a TV licence if you watch, record or otherwise consume live television. It doesn’t matter which television stations you watch, or how you watch them.
 
ronk said:
Can you non licence payers put your hand on heart and say that you never ever watch a BBC prog.?
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Absolutely.
In fact, I can't remember the last time I was in the same room as a 'live' television.
I don't actually need a TV license as I live in NL but I actually gave up on telly years ago. I don't have a contract with any TV service-provider, I only have internet.
It's all just complete drivel mostly, the only thing I used to be remotely interested in was F1 and the cycling on Eurosports. F1 is just crap now and I can see the cycling highlights on the Eurosports youtube channel. The news is just depressing watered-down dis-informational claptrap and just watching TV passively is an affront to your own free time! There's so many more interesting/productive things you could be doing. I actually prefer making stuff, listening to music or reading....or all at the same time sometimes!

That's not to say I don't 'watch TV' at all in that there are a number of youtube channels I'm subscribed to and enjoy the ability to choose when and how I can watch videos from these at my own discretion.
 
Bombardino said:
It's any live TV channel not just the BBC. It doesn't matter if you're watching a live broadcast from the other side of the world, and it doesn’t matter what kind of device you use to watch live television on, or how you collect and process the signal. You’re still watching live TV if you get the feed from an aerial, a cable network, a satellite dish, a wifi hotspot or any other internet server it's still classed as live TV.
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I'm well aware and can still, hand on heart, confirm I do not watch any live TV in my home
Its also worth mentioning that the bbc iplayer is also included in that even through it is not live tv :thumbsdown:

I, like Chris_D get my media and entertainment on demand from the likes of YouTube, the only live tv I watch is the F1 and I go to the gym to do that (or at least I used to watch F1 at the gym, havent seen anything this year!)
TV is dead, its old fashioned, inconvenient and immobile. That's without even getting into my laundry list of issues with the bbc as a cartel.
 
Flyingfifer said:
Bombardino said:
It's any live TV channel not just the BBC. It doesn't matter if you're watching a live broadcast from the other side of the world, and it doesn’t matter what kind of device you use to watch live television on, or how you collect and process the signal. You’re still watching live TV if you get the feed from an aerial, a cable network, a satellite dish, a wifi hotspot or any other internet server it's still classed as live TV.
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I'm well aware and can still, hand on heart, confirm I do not watch any live TV in my home
Its also worth mentioning that the bbc iplayer is also included in that even through it is not live tv :thumbsdown:

I, like Chris_D get my media and entertainment on demand from the likes of YouTube, the only live tv I watch is the F1 and I go to the gym to do that (or at least I used to watch F1 at the gym, havent seen anything this year!)
TV is dead, its old fashioned, inconvenient and immobile. That's without even getting into my laundry list of issues with the bbc as a cartel.
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Totally agree the BBC has had it's day. :thumbsup:
 
Watching Top Gear the other night made me wonder (yet again) what value am I getting for my money? BBC highly over rated and out of touch these days in my very humble opinion.
 
Doesn't it apply to radio also?

I can see iPlayer being part of it as that is a BBC service, but it should only cover BBC things, and therefore be a subscription, not requirement. We would probably pay it, as we tend to only watch BBC or Sky...but thats not the point, it shouldn't be compulsory.

And do the BBC get it all? Thats not even fair considering some people have to pay it yet genuinely don't watch BBC content, or at least don't watch solely BBC content.
 
Chris_D said:
ronk said:
Can you non licence payers put your hand on heart and say that you never ever watch a BBC prog.?
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Absolutely.
In fact, I can't remember the last time I was in the same room as a 'live' television.
I don't actually need a TV license as I live in NL but I actually gave up on telly years ago. I don't have a contract with any TV service-provider, I only have internet.
It's all just complete drivel mostly, the only thing I used to be remotely interested in was F1 and the cycling on Eurosports. F1 is just crap now and I can see the cycling highlights on the Eurosports youtube channel. The news is just depressing watered-down dis-informational claptrap and just watching TV passively is an affront to your own free time! There's so many more interesting/productive things you could be doing. I actually prefer making stuff, listening to music or reading....or all at the same time sometimes!

That's not to say I don't 'watch TV' at all in that there are a number of youtube channels I'm subscribed to and enjoy the ability to choose when and how I can watch videos from these at my own discretion.
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Absolutely agree with you Chris, there is absolutely no decent stuff on the tv anymore. Especially on any BBC channel. Oh, apart from the 6.30 to 7.00 bit where they just broadcast a red screen with birds singin in the background. Err, so ive been told.
 
The reasoning for the 'mandatory' licence is that it didn't/doesn't just pay for BBC services.

It also used to be for supporting the newcomer TV stations (Channel 4 + Channel 5) for a few years until they got their budgets in order.

But now that's gone, (a tiny) part of the fee still contributes towards Freeview and Freesat, and towards the UK broadband rollout, funding local TV channels and S4C.
 
We consider ourselves very lucky here because we can access a different version of the BBC than the one described - ours is full of award winning and world renowned documentaries, dramas and other content. Also we are able to receive an amazing treasure trove of radio and on-line content which is seemingly provided free of charge. Not a single annoying advert to distract either. Would be gutted to lose it.
 
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