Supporting Nurses

mcbutler

Senior member
Plymouth
Hi All,
I know its off topic but please read this and forward it to all you know if you don't mind.

My petition:

Give all NHS staff on a visa indefinite leave to stay in the UK as recognition

In the current covid crisis we have many foreign national facing danger and infection every moment of their working day. Many are many miles from their families in other countries yet they stay here in the UK to help us.

I would like to see every single NHS worker on a visa given full UK citizenship in recognition of their selfless and amazing work protecting the UK public.

Click this link to sign the petition:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/312639/sponsors/new?token=dKM-5DQmxdYSMx6FDr8X

PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK..
 
I know it's an unpopular opinion but hospitals are quieter than usual and all the staff in the NHS are still getting paid. My concern in these times are with people that are self employed or on zero hour contracts that are seeing their incomes disappear and their savings vanish.
 
I hope it doesn't take as long as it took for the Ghurkas
 
My sister works in a care home. She is now working every night shift. They were threatened that if the residents all die of Covid, they would all be sacked and the home turned into a nursing home.
Good way to thank your staff.
And by the way 10 residents died in about a week at her home some month or so ago, this virus has been around for ages.
 
R.E92 said:
I know it's an unpopular opinion but hospitals are quieter than usual and all the staff in the NHS are still getting paid. My concern in these times are with people that are self employed or on zero hour contracts that are seeing their incomes disappear and their savings vanish.
That really is a pessimistic opinion my friend, all hospital workers - armed forces etc are on 24/7/365 pay because it's the only way to do it. How on earth could you account for a nurses/soldiers etc hours at this time.
Also remember that you probably don't see the 'coal face' in the hospitals, just the A&E etc.

I am self employed but guess what, like many I am insured, don't believe the media hype.

Stay safe..
 
flybobbie said:
My sister works in a care home. She is now working every night shift. They were threatened that if the residents all die of Covid, they would all be sacked and the home turned into a nursing home.
Good way to thank your staff.
And by the way 10 residents died in about a week at her home some month or so ago, this virus has been around for ages.
Yes my mum died in a very expensive care home two years ago. I was shocked at the way the staff were treated. Almost as disposable as PPE, shocking. The people who go into these care professions do so in general because they are born to the role. I am an empathetic caring person but I could not spend my days changing pensioners nappies or dealing with dying children etc.
We desperately need to support these amazing people.
I would like to see a national NHS etc day
 
mcbutler said:
flybobbie said:
My sister works in a care home. She is now working every night shift. They were threatened that if the residents all die of Covid, they would all be sacked and the home turned into a nursing home.
Good way to thank your staff.
And by the way 10 residents died in about a week at her home some month or so ago, this virus has been around for ages.
Yes my mum died in a very expensive care home two years ago. I was shocked at the way the staff were treated. Almost as disposable as PPE, shocking. The people who go into these care professions do so in general because they are born to the role. I am an empathetic caring person but I could not spend my days changing pensioners nappies or dealing with dying children etc.
We desperately need to support these amazing people.
I would like to see a national NHS etc day
Pass my greatest respect and admiration to your fabulous sister please :thumbsup:
 
A lot of the virus deaths will be care home residents.
The home my mother was in, she now passed, i would visit her weekly, but the staff said many would see no one all year.
I saw the same staff working there for over 10 years, that was a good home.
 
mcbutler said:
R.E92 said:
I know it's an unpopular opinion but hospitals are quieter than usual and all the staff in the NHS are still getting paid. My concern in these times are with people that are self employed or on zero hour contracts that are seeing their incomes disappear and their savings vanish.
That really is a pessimistic opinion my friend, all hospital workers - armed forces etc are on 24/7/365 pay because it's the only way to do it. How on earth could you account for a nurses/soldiers etc hours at this time.
Also remember that you probably don't see the 'coal face' in the hospitals, just the A&E etc.

I am self employed but guess what, like many I am insured, don't believe the media hype.

Stay safe..

There's a lot of people out there working hard and not getting any freebies or applause from it. My parents are farmers and it's business as usual for them, still knee deep in s**t during lambing time working 18hr days 7 days a week and still getting next to nothing for the end product.

People complain about NHS staff not getting paid enough but to people like my parents, the idea of £25k+ salary, pension and working only 40hrs a week is living the dream and it's all funded out of their pockets. This isn't something like MERS with a 40% fatality rate, to a healthy person this virus is no more dangerous than common influenza.

I apologise if this seems like a negative view of the NHS, it's not meant to be a downer on them, rather a reality check that the country is currently being held up by the farmers, lorry drivers , shop workers and plant operators on power stations, sewage works and water treatment plants. It's even more crazy when news outlets start comparing NHS workers to war heroes who fought in the first and second world wars.
 
mcbutler said:
R.E92 said:
I know it's an unpopular opinion but hospitals are quieter than usual and all the staff in the NHS are still getting paid. My concern in these times are with people that are self employed or on zero hour contracts that are seeing their incomes disappear and their savings vanish.
That really is a pessimistic opinion my friend, all hospital workers - armed forces etc are on 24/7/365 pay because it's the only way to do it. How on earth could you account for a nurses/soldiers etc hours at this time.
Also remember that you probably don't see the 'coal face' in the hospitals, just the A&E etc.

I am self employed but guess what, like many I am insured, don't believe the media hype.

Stay safe..

Insured? In what sense?

I checked our insurance for business interruption that we are insured for, along with all liabilities, but they won’t insure business losses due to a pandemic. :?

As for nurses and a lot of NHS, they never get paid for extra hours worked, just time back... but they are so busy they never get time back. The missus is part time special baby care, 26.25 hours per week. She’s lucky if she does less than 36... the extra hours are unpaid. Thank the government for that, shortage of nurses and staff due to them being worked to the bone and causing either early retirements or mass exodus of staff .
 
I'll put my opinion in here and it won't be popular.....

This virus does not merit putting the country into lockdown, creating a state controlled by zealous plod and ruining the economy for years to come.

Simple but effective social distancing in the street and shops plus extra care of hygene would have done it. Older and more vurnerable needed more isolation but not to the point they have no life worth living for...
I am sure when this farce is over we'll see the real price paid and that deaths due to seasonal virus are just a part of life - bad as it may be for some people...

As for nurses etc they earn my respect and they should be paid better... Free citizenship, no... They can apply like others and if their service is worthy (as it is) then they should be given fast track...

Finally I run a limited company and there is no insurance that covers this - I'm living off my funds that won't last forever.. If they bail out British Airways (Spanish company), RyanAir or that bearded billionaire Branson then I will fu**ing go crazy..

Now let's get the country back into order with more thought out planning... This whole thing stinks like the wobbly science beyond unproved global warming...
 
Petition signed....I’d pay nurses double what they get and care home workers too. How many here would want to deal with what they do...?

I certainly don’t have the stomach for it, absolute stars the lot of them.
 
Ouroux71 said:
I'll put my opinion in here and it won't be popular.....

This virus does not merit putting the country into lockdown, creating a state controlled by zealous plod and ruining the economy for years to come.
I take it by this statement you haven’t got or had the virus ? Because if you had I know by my own experience it fooking hurts, and you wouldn’t of come out with a silly statement lol Would you have the same opinion if you had the virus and all the hospital beds were full ?
 
R.E92 said:
I know it's an unpopular opinion but hospitals are quieter than usual and all the staff in the NHS are still getting paid. My concern in these times are with people that are self employed or on zero hour contracts that are seeing their incomes disappear and their savings vanish.

So they can keeping working , you would let people die , amazing
 
Ouroux71 said:
I'll put my opinion in here and it won't be popular.....

This virus does not merit putting the country into lockdown, creating a state controlled by zealous plod and ruining the economy for years to come.

Simple but effective social distancing in the street and shops plus extra care of hygene would have done it. Older and more vurnerable needed more isolation but not to the point they have no life worth living for...
I am sure when this farce is over we'll see the real price paid and that deaths due to seasonal virus are just a part of life - bad as it may be for some people...

As for nurses etc they earn my respect and they should be paid better... Free citizenship, no... They can apply like others and if their service is worthy (as it is) then they should be given fast track...

Finally I run a limited company and there is no insurance that covers this - I'm living off my funds that won't last forever.. If they bail out British Airways (Spanish company), RyanAir or that bearded billionaire Branson then I will fu**ing go crazy..

Now let's get the country back into order with more thought out planning... This whole thing stinks like the wobbly science beyond unproved global warming...

A-Grade D!ckhead
 
I have been in hospital and can't say enough for them for my treatment.
But before, my experience with my mother, would bring that opinion in doubt, simple things like watching a nurse fit a nébuliser onto the oxygen outlet next to a bed. She kept trying to screw it on several times with a left hand thread. I just thought for safety reasons it had a left hand thread. I was just about to say to her try turning it the other way. She beat me to it. I shook my head in disbelief.
 
I think i have had the virus or something this last week. I sat next to someone with a sore throat and by Tuesday last i was coughing. Then just dry sinus with muscles aches and restless disturbed sleep pattern. Can't taste much. Very slight sore throat, goes away with a cuppa. Glad to have the time off work.
 
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