Stung?

[Conrod]

Great - you're now free to Spend Spend Spend!

 

[Zed Baron]

Maybe we should (as a collective) create a check list on what to look / look out for when buying a second hand E89 and post it up somewhere on the E89 discussion board? Things like the roof relays, cracked alloys and run flats etc.

 

[enuff_zed]

Just spoke to BMW and they are refunding the £1100 for the two wheels accepting I’ve changed my mind. PHEW!!!

That's lucky!
I'll be controversial and ask if you've considered fitting 18" wheels instead?
I agree that 19s can fill the arches a bit better and aesthetically are perhaps more pleasing on the eye, but 18s do get a very good press with regard to handling and comfort.
Just throwing it in as another option.

 

[Zed Baron]

I'll be controversial and ask if you've considered fitting 18" wheels instead?

Would save you a little bit of money also

 

[Scubaregs]

Selling garage still contributing towards tyres?

You have a decision to make now, the welded wheels are an MOT pass and legal, you can keep those and use the selling garages contribution to tyres and put new runflats on, or you can buy an alloy and tyre package (non runflat) and sell your old wheels. First solution is cheapest, but I think I would be going down the second route.

That £1100 refund and some cash from the seller will get you a nice new set of alloys and 4 new tyres.

 

[tiglon]

Maybe we should (as a collective) create a check list on what to look / look out for when buying a second hand E89 and post it up somewhere on the E89 discussion board? Things like the roof relays, cracked alloys and run flats etc.

Excellent idea!

I'll be controversial and ask if you've considered fitting 18" wheels instead?
I agree that 19s can fill the arches a bit better and aesthetically are perhaps more pleasing on the eye, but 18s do get a very good press with regard to handling and comfort.
Just throwing it in as another option.

I had 17s on my first e89, didn't look terrible at all and so much more comfortable, even with run flats. Definitely worth considering smaller wheels.

 

[Zed Baron]

Maybe we should (as a collective) create a check list on what to look / look out for when buying a second hand E89 and post it up somewhere on the E89 discussion board? Things like the roof relays, cracked alloys and run flats etc.

Excellent idea!

We could have a generic section and then model specific, I don't mind putting it together if others want to contribute content. As these cars get older I'm sure more gremlins will appear and therefore we could keep the document updated.

 

[PointedMarlin]

Just spoke to BMW and they are refunding the £1100 for the two wheels accepting I’ve changed my mind. PHEW!!!

 

[CymruNurse]

As it stands I’ve no plans to change the wheels. If they get another fracture (or when!), then I’ll think about it with non run flats.

 

[enuff_zed]

As it stands I’ve no plans to change the wheels. If they get another fracture (or when!), then I’ll think about it with non run flats.

Could find they last for ages yet.

 

[Silverstar]

I'd be pursuing the welded wheel issue.
It failed on the 5th August for cracked wh

Why? The car failed the MOT and the dealer fixed them to a legal standard and hence the car passed the MOT the second time around. Sure there is a lot of debate as to if repaired crack wheels are ok or not but there is nothing definitive to say that repaired wheels are not ok or otherwise they wouldn't have passed the ITV.

Personally I don't think you will get very far pursuing a claim for the wheels unless the garage feels generous. You also have to remember that selling cars is a business and as with any business it's about maximising profits hence why would they spend more than is necessary to get the car to a road legal standard? BMW dealers would have replaced the wheels for sure but two things, A) they have massive mark ups on their cars and B) they get the parts at cost.

 

[enuff_zed]

The car failed the MOT and the dealer fixed them to a legal standard and hence the car passed the MOT the second time around. Sure there is a lot of debate as to if repaired crack wheels are ok or not but there is nothing definitive

I agree with this.

I hope the OP does not see this as a dig at them, but this is a salutary lesson that if you are considering buying an older car that is something more than run of the mill, then it is always a good idea to find out if there's any owners groups who can advise or even potentially go along with you.

As far as my basic maths can establish, leaving the watch out of the equation, it's around an £800 bill?
An expensive lesson maybe, but could have been much worse.

 

[Ole gits rule]

I feel your pain with the stealer - never ever go there unless the car has a BMW warranty.

Heres my thoughts, how many miles have you done since you purchased the car, is this enough to make the tyres illegal (unlikely) so they have sold you a car that is not roadworthy and should replace the tyres irrespective of where you had them changed as the car sounds as if it was unfit to drive.

I would remind them of this and if they start playing hard ball, I would suggest trading standard may be interested in them probably selling an unroadworthy vehicle.

Plus the MOT station is also liable as the tyres are not mentioned as an advisory - or has the garage swapped them out for worn out tyres after the MOT was passed, it really does all sound very fishy to me.

I would be cancelling the order with BMW, they can cancel it and I am pretty certain there is a cooling off period on that sort of spend.

I would phone trading standard before the garage come back to you in the morning and get your ducks lined up.

Yes, you may want to keep the car, but they should be compensating you heavily based on the issues so far, they should be paying for a battery as well IMHO, yes wear and tear but to be changed after two weeks?

What Pondrew stated earlier plus there is no warranty on the battery especially not on a second hand car. My brand new Ford's battery went after just two years and I had a 5 year warranty on the car but they refuse to pay out stating batteries are not covered!

Not saying there is but for it to go after 2 weeks - I would not be happy

 

[Ole gits rule]

I did not ask for a health check.

Thats the biggest thing for, just do the job you are asked to and not go looking for other bits to add, fair enough if its dangerous but if its not then just advise and scare people to death.

 

[Ole gits rule]

Just spoke to BMW and they are refunding the £1100 for the two wheels accepting I’ve changed my mind. PHEW!!!

Thats good news at least - can get a set of aftermarket wheels for that amount and still have 2 to sell to make up some of the money

 

[2k35is]

I'd be pursuing the welded wheel issue.
It failed on the 5th August for cracked wh

Why? The car failed the MOT and the dealer fixed them to a legal standard and hence the car passed the MOT the second time around. Sure there is a lot of debate as to if repaired crack wheels are ok or not but there is nothing definitive to say that repaired wheels are not ok or otherwise they wouldn't have passed the ITV.

Personally I don't think you will get very far pursuing a claim for the wheels unless the garage feels generous. You also have to remember that selling cars is a business and as with any business it's about maximising profits hence why would they spend more than is necessary to get the car to a road legal standard? BMW dealers would have replaced the wheels for sure but two things, A) they have massive mark ups on their cars and B) they get the parts at cost.

Re "I don't think you will get very far pursuing a claim"
My attitude is "if you don't ask you don't get" or a "quitter never won anything". I'm not looking at it from the sellers maximizing his profit but minimizing the emptying of my wallet. As you say they have a massive mark up on cars So IMO always worth at least pursuing- in this case non of us has any idea what the seller said or how he described car.
P.S Yorkshire born and breed may explain why

 

[mcbutler]

As it stands I’ve no plans to change the wheels. If they get another fracture (or when!), then I’ll think about it with non run flats.

Thats the sensible way forward, I have an engineer who will weld and repaint your wheel for £55, hes done three of mine. A weld done properly is stronger than the original material so no risk involved

 

[CymruNurse]

Thanks Mark. I’ll keep that in mind buddy.

 

[Silverstar]

Re "I don't think you will get very far pursuing a claim"
My attitude is "if you don't ask you don't get" or a "quitter never won anything". I'm not looking at it from the sellers maximizing his profit but minimizing the emptying of my wallet. As you say they have a massive mark up on cars So IMO always worth at least pursuing- in this case non of us has any idea what the seller said or how he described car.
P.S Yorkshire born and breed may explain why

I agree with you regards to asking, I always ask and sometimes get Which is why I said unless the dealer is feeling generous. I was just commenting from a legal viewpoint and the fact that the dealer did repair the car to get it roadworthy for sale. I am bit puzzled about the situation with the tyres though, if they really were that bad how on earth did they pass the MOT. Saying that here in Spain my mate's car passed the MOT (ITV) with all four tyres in illegal condition! shocking how the test centre missed that!