Strong Sulfur Smell

Leftover Salmon

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Greetings,

I just purchased a used 2003 Z4 3.0i with the sport package from a BMW dealership here in Jacksonville, Florida. I traded in a 2007 Toyota Tundra with the 5.7L engine. While I will miss the 381hp engine, I will not miss its 22 gallon gas tank with the $75.00 to $100.00 fill ups.

This is not my first convertible, (I owned a Honda from 1995 until 2000), it is however my very first BMW automobile so I am quite excited.

Anway, I was driving around yesterday with the top down after leaving the dealership and notice a strong sulfur smell. For whatever reason, I did not smell this during an hour+ test drive with the salesman on a different day.

I have noticed at a lot of gas stations here in Jacksonville have giant stickers at the pump stating that sulfur has been added to the gasoline.

I have done a search on Google and I have found a lot of wise guy answers, but nothing that really helps to explain what is going on, and if I should be concerned.

To be clear, sometimes I am smelling the sulfur smell with the top down doing about 45 MPH. Other times, it wafts into the cabin as I come to the stop at a red light. While the smell is strong, it goes away pretty quickly, but it is there and you definately notice it. Of course, this problem doesn't happen every single time. Fortunately, I have not smelled it with the top up, but only with the top down.

Aside from the sulfur smell, the car looks and runs great. I haven't noticed anything wrong with it mechanically and have gotten two compliments on it from complete strangers within an hour of leaving a dealership. I was blown away! I thought my Tundra was nice, but in the two years I drove it no one gave me a single complement. LOL!

Questions:

1.) Could the sulfur smell be due to the higher sulfur content in today's gasoline mixtures? (I never had this problem with my Honda, but that was almost 10 years ago when gas was a lot cheaper and I lived in California and Washington state.)

2.) If it is the higher sulfur content of today's gas mixture, could I have been experiencing this in my Tundra as well but just didn't notice it due to the fact I was riding in a truck with no sunroof and the windows usually rolled up as opposed to an open cockpit?

3.) Should I try a different gas station? I got the impression that the dealer has a contract with Gate gas stations because they gave me a purchase order for one free gas fillup at the station just down the street from the dealership. Would trying a tank of gas from Shell or Exxon be a good idea?

4.) From what I read on my Google searches, it could be a catalytic converter that is going bad or faulty O2 sensors. I have no warning lights lit up on my dash. Could these items be bad anyway with no warning light?

While I am concerned, I'm not freaking out, but I would like to know if others have had this problem and what they did to correct it. I stressed to the salesman prior to buying Z4 that my Tundra was in perfect working condition and that the Z4 needed to be the same way. (I don't need a project car!) He assured me that it was, and if there was a problem with anything, that I had a 90 day or 3,000 mile warranty that was bumper-to-bumper.

Thank-you!

Derrick
 
Almost all petrol (gasoline in the US) contains organic sulphur compounds with sulphur levels ranging from 30 to 100 parts per million, approximately. As the fuel burns, the organic sulphur compounds break down into simpler compounds. If the engine is running lean (more air than is needed to burn the fuel), the sulphur is likely to be SO2, or sulphur dioxide. The catalytic converter can change this into SO3 (sulphur trioxide), which then reacts with the catalyst to form sulphates on the catalyst. Over several minutes there is a build up of sulphates. If the engine suddenly starts to run rich (not enough air to burn all the fuel), such as when you stop at a red light, climb a steep hill, or brake hard to slow down, the chemistry changes. Now the sulphates are unstable and they react to form hydrogen sulphide (the rotten egg smell), which is expelled from the exhaust pipe all at once. The high concentration is the reason for the bad smell! This effect is a common problem with new vehicles because the catalyst is working at a very high efficiency. However, as the catalyst gets older, the activity drops. Fortunately, one of the first reactions to be affected is the formation of hydrogen sulphide. So as the catalyst gets older, the smell will reduce. It should also be noted that many catalysts never smell bad. One reason might be because the vehicle doesn't run lean for much of the time or perhaps the catalyst has an additional component that reduces the production of hydrogen sulphide. In the z4 with the hood down and the fact that you sit lower to the ground and consequently close to exiting exhaust gases makes the smell seem worse. The fact that you can smell hydrogen sulphide means that the cat is WORKING NORMALLY - don't belive all you read on Google. Hope this helps. :thumbsup:
 
Derrick, welcome to the forum!

Not to sure on this, hopefully another one of our American number will be able to help. The car's quite good with warning lights if it thinks there is something wrong. But yes, try running Shell high octane and see how you go on that - a good excuse to get out and put your foot down :driving:
 
PawnSacrifice said:
Derrick, welcome to the forum!

Not to sure on this, hopefully another one of our American number will be able to help. The car's quite good with warning lights if it thinks there is something wrong. But yes, try running Shell high octane and see how you go on that - a good excuse to get out and put your foot down :driving:


My response not good enough.....Humphhh :x
 
AlanJ said:
My response not good enough.....Humphhh :x

Sorry dude... not quite sure what happened there - did it really take me 5 minutes to type my response :idunno: Thorough response it was too!
 
PawnSacrifice said:
AlanJ said:
My response not good enough.....Humphhh :x

Sorry dude... not quite sure what happened there - did it really take me 5 minutes to type my response :idunno: Thorough response it was too!


Cheers PS - just joking!
 
Given this is part of the 'ownership experience' have you got a wind deflector fitted? Given that the tendency is for air to whip over the windscreen and bootlid (trunk) then back round between the head rests, a w/d might reduce the airflow enough to minimise the problem?
 
lacroupade said:
Given this is part of the 'ownership experience' have you got a wind deflector fitted? Given that the tendency is for air to whip over the windscreen and bootlid (trunk) then back round between the head rests, a w/d might reduce the airflow enough to minimise the problem?


Good advice :thumbsup:
 
AlanJ said:
lacroupade said:
Given this is part of the 'ownership experience' have you got a wind deflector fitted? Given that the tendency is for air to whip over the windscreen and bootlid (trunk) then back round between the head rests, a w/d might reduce the airflow enough to minimise the problem?


Good advice :thumbsup:

Coming from somone who appears to have been raised in a Fume Cupboard, I'm humbled!
:rofl:

...god that suddenly took me back :censored: years!
 
Thread Subversion at its finest...apparently made with an old display fridge and a hoover....

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A here's us all assuming it's a car issue. Here are links to some alternative remedies/solutions.......

http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Bookshelf/Books/47/60.cfm
http://www.best-home-remedies.com/popular/flatulence.htm


:rofl:
 
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