Stay the fcuk at home (will offend some)

[R.E92]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it. I've heard the argument that non essential journeys may result in a crash and therefore need the emergency services but I personally think that argument is bullshit on many levels. When I'm out running I rarely see another person, I certainly don't get within 2 meters or share any fluids with them!

People get quite emotive about this topic and result to absurd arguments about marginal eventualities and the possible knock-on effects of those marginal outcomes on puppies or vulnerable orphans. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

I suppose you don't want treating when or if you get the virus,probably won't isolate either as you know better than the experts.

That kind of attitude is what strikes me as the strangest, do you not think riding a crotch rocket is also an unacceptable risk even in times without a pandemic? Get a beige Volvo, stop drinking alcohol and eat a low calorie diet if you want to reduce the strain on the NHS, after all if you listen to what the media says they are always overworked and under funded!

 

[Crazy Harry]

The issue is that even if one of these idiots who thinks it's alright to wander out because they don't really care for others is an asymptomatic carrier, they could end up causing some other innocent soul to be making the same journey as you in a few days or weeks time.

We already have people who ring 999 when the kebab shop won't serve them or for a broken finger nail - there's plenty of stupid out there! ... and the issue with stupid is that stupid does what stupid sees .... and stupid does not differentiate between out on own and out to meet mates; or taking precautions (can't even stop pregnancies let alone a virus)

The problem for thinking people is to remember stupid and not to validate things they may do; and to accept that it restricts all of us.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it. I've heard the argument that non essential journeys may result in a crash and therefore need the emergency services but I personally think that argument is bullshit on many levels. When I'm out running I rarely see another person, I certainly don't get within 2 meters or share any fluids with them!

People get quite emotive about this topic and result to absurd arguments about marginal eventualities and the possible knock-on effects of those marginal outcomes on puppies or vulnerable orphans. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

I suppose you don't want treating when or if you get the virus,probably won't isolate either as you know better than the experts.

That kind of attitude is what strikes me as the strangest, do you not think riding a crotch rocket is also an unacceptable risk even in times without a pandemic? Get a beige Volvo, stop drinking alcohol and eat a low calorie diet if you want to reduce the strain on the NHS, after all if you listen to what the media says they are always overworked and under funded!

I sold my Ducati 900/Yamaha FZR1000/Honda CBR1000 and now have a white Volvo XC70 (beige wasn’t an option by then) and have stopped drinking and am on a low calorie diet (ask SmartBear ) so can I critique your views ?

 

[R.E92]

I suppose you don't want treating when or if you get the virus,probably won't isolate either as you know better than the experts.

That kind of attitude is what strikes me as the strangest, do you not think riding a crotch rocket is also an unacceptable risk even in times without a pandemic? Get a beige Volvo, stop drinking alcohol and eat a low calorie diet if you want to reduce the strain on the NHS, after all if you listen to what the media says they are always overworked and under funded!

I sold my Ducati 900/Yamaha FZR1000/Honda CBR1000 and now have a white Volvo XC70 (beige wasn’t an option by then) and have stopped drinking and am on a low calorie diet (ask SmartBear ) so can I critique your views ?

My point was more that people shouldn't critique other's lifestyle choices when it comes to requiring healthcare. I think maxman felt I was putting strain on his healthcare just by running or driving alone.

 

[Anonymous]

That kind of attitude is what strikes me as the strangest, do you not think riding a crotch rocket is also an unacceptable risk even in times without a pandemic? Get a beige Volvo, stop drinking alcohol and eat a low calorie diet if you want to reduce the strain on the NHS, after all if you listen to what the media says they are always overworked and under funded!

I sold my Ducati 900/Yamaha FZR1000/Honda CBR1000 and now have a white Volvo XC70 (beige wasn’t an option by then) and have stopped drinking and am on a low calorie diet (ask SmartBear ) so can I critique your views ?

My point was more that people shouldn't critique other's lifestyle choices when it comes to requiring healthcare. I think maxman felt I was putting strain on his healthcare just by running or driving alone.

I fully understand his comments and your reply thanks..

 

[Phoenixboy]

 

[Phoenixboy]

If you watched this evenings daily Gov't update they said whilst public transport journeys have droppped significantly, car useage has risen, I suspect people are getting fed up and think its not an issue being isolated in their car.

Local Authorities are busy identifying suitable places to act as morgues, convention centres, local showgrounds etc, as the Gov't has said its going to get worse and now is the time to stay indoors until the peak is reached and then for a few weeks after, so I can't see this ending anytime soon, 4-6 weeks at the earliest.

Some Police forces have been criticised for being over zelous in telling people to go home if they don't have a valid reason to be out and about, its becoming a Police state etc, well I hope it does, they should be puttng up road blocks in and out of all major towns and cities, aided by the army and dishing out hefty fines, going out for excercise should be banned and you should only be allowed out for one shop a week and to help an elderly relative etc.

Hundreds of people are dying each day, most likely these are people who caught the virus some weeks ago and hopefully the peak will be soon so the sooner people keep indoors the better, if they can't, they should be made too.

Tim.

I suspect Matt Hancock might be in trouble as he’s just said on Question time it’s ok for people to drive a short journey to wherever to then go for exercise!
At least ensure your all on the same page comes to mind.

 

[obewan]

If you watched this evenings daily Gov't update they said whilst public transport journeys have droppped significantly, car useage has risen, I suspect people are getting fed up and think its not an issue being isolated in their car.

Local Authorities are busy identifying suitable places to act as morgues, convention centres, local showgrounds etc, as the Gov't has said its going to get worse and now is the time to stay indoors until the peak is reached and then for a few weeks after, so I can't see this ending anytime soon, 4-6 weeks at the earliest.

Some Police forces have been criticised for being over zelous in telling people to go home if they don't have a valid reason to be out and about, its becoming a Police state etc, well I hope it does, they should be puttng up road blocks in and out of all major towns and cities, aided by the army and dishing out hefty fines, going out for excercise should be banned and you should only be allowed out for one shop a week and to help an elderly relative etc.

Hundreds of people are dying each day, most likely these are people who caught the virus some weeks ago and hopefully the peak will be soon so the sooner people keep indoors the better, if they can't, they should be made too.

Tim.

I suspect Matt Hancock might be in trouble as he’s just said on Question time it’s ok for people to drive a short journey to wherever to then go for exercise!
At least ensure your all on the same page comes to mind.

Lancashire Police were saying that on TV last night. Their reasoning was that a journey of a ‘few’ miles could take you somewhere quieter to exercise

 

[Phoenixboy]

If you watched this evenings daily Gov't update they said whilst public transport journeys have droppped significantly, car useage has risen, I suspect people are getting fed up and think its not an issue being isolated in their car.

Local Authorities are busy identifying suitable places to act as morgues, convention centres, local showgrounds etc, as the Gov't has said its going to get worse and now is the time to stay indoors until the peak is reached and then for a few weeks after, so I can't see this ending anytime soon, 4-6 weeks at the earliest.

Some Police forces have been criticised for being over zelous in telling people to go home if they don't have a valid reason to be out and about, its becoming a Police state etc, well I hope it does, they should be puttng up road blocks in and out of all major towns and cities, aided by the army and dishing out hefty fines, going out for excercise should be banned and you should only be allowed out for one shop a week and to help an elderly relative etc.

Hundreds of people are dying each day, most likely these are people who caught the virus some weeks ago and hopefully the peak will be soon so the sooner people keep indoors the better, if they can't, they should be made too.

Tim.

I suspect Matt Hancock might be in trouble as he’s just said on Question time it’s ok for people to drive a short journey to wherever to then go for exercise!
At least ensure your all on the same page comes to mind.

Lancashire Police were saying that on TV last night. Their reasoning was that a journey of a ‘few’ miles could take you somewhere quieter to exercise

Totally contradicts what’s been said.
Confuses the public, and leaves the police out on a limb.
I can understand why people would drive to a quiet spot to exercise, but they then run the risk of encouraging the idiots to head to the tourist hotspots.
As I have said, people are shopping more times than they should or need to, because it’s an excuse to get out for a drive.
I would rather they kept to shopping when essential, and allowed them to go for a drive but not be allowed to stop anywhere.
Who knows the answer.
Yes people will say, just stay in, but it’s all about minimising the risk.
Numerous shopping trips which is clearly happening, or essential shopping only and a drive out in the car with no stopping.

 

[Bing]

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

I’ve decided to stay out of a few threads I’ve seen and thought to comment on in the last few weeks because frankly I can’t believe some of the stuff I am reading. And on this forum, in years gone by, a personal tragedy would never have been so roundly ignored because people were only paying attention to the last time their comments were quoted.

I’d like to offer my sincere condolences - the loss of a parent at any time is indescribably hard, but the current circumstances must be very frustrating and only serving to make it more upsetting. My thoughts are with you and your family AnilS, I hope you all find a way to send him off together.

 

[Lance]

There’s always a reason or excuse to flout the rules, usually selfish, but there’s always a reason.

Failing that, just point out someone else flouting the same rule, problem solved.

 

[AnilS]

Thank you Bing for the kind words.

We are struggling to accept the low numbers allowed at the prospective funeral.

Strange times.

 

[AndyBeech]

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

I’ve decided to stay out of a few threads I’ve seen and thought to comment on in the last few weeks because frankly I can’t believe some of the stuff I am reading. And on this forum, in years gone by, a personal tragedy would never have been so roundly ignored because people were only paying attention to the last time their comments were quoted.

I’d like to offer my sincere condolences - the loss of a parent at any time is indescribably hard, but the current circumstances must be very frustrating and only serving to make it more upsetting. My thoughts are with you and your family AnilS, I hope you all find a way to send him off together.

+1 condolences to you AnilS and basically sums up this thread.

Amazing that even after this is posted that other guy still bangs on about doing what he thinks is best outwith the rules and justifying himself. Strange.

 

[enuff_zed]

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

I’ve decided to stay out of a few threads I’ve seen and thought to comment on in the last few weeks because frankly I can’t believe some of the stuff I am reading. And on this forum, in years gone by, a personal tragedy would never have been so roundly ignored because people were only paying attention to the last time their comments were quoted.

I’d like to offer my sincere condolences - the loss of a parent at any time is indescribably hard, but the current circumstances must be very frustrating and only serving to make it more upsetting. My thoughts are with you and your family AnilS, I hope you all find a way to send him off together.

Well said sir!
Was beginning to think I had misread AnilS's post as it was so completely ignored.
Very sad it has come down to this.

 

[flimper]

Same here Bing, a few times I've started to write something then thought better of it

 

[TitanTim]

I concur, my sincere condolences to AnilS, very tough and trying times.

Tim.

 

[obewan]

Well said Bing, I'm nowhere near as longstanding a member as you, but I've seen a change over the last few years

However, I'm not sure AnilS's sad situation was ignored as much as maybe it first appears
AnilS also posted his comments in another thread, where several members immediately offered their condolences.
Maybe they thought better of duplicating their response in this one (I did)

 

[R.E92]

I don't mind being the bogeyman. I don't use forums for companionship but I suppose this subforum is geared towards that than the technical ones. I haven't ignored those posts but I feel offering any sympathy to be disingenuous.

So after this advice from No.10 that it's OK to take a short drive to get away from the crowded running paths of the suburbs it seems I'm no longer a reckless criminal but a government abiding model citizen and the curtain twitchers can go back to enforcing the law in their cul-de-sac

 

[AnilS]

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

I’ve decided to stay out of a few threads I’ve seen and thought to comment on in the last few weeks because frankly I can’t believe some of the stuff I am reading. And on this forum, in years gone by, a personal tragedy would never have been so roundly ignored because people were only paying attention to the last time their comments were quoted.

I’d like to offer my sincere condolences - the loss of a parent at any time is indescribably hard, but the current circumstances must be very frustrating and only serving to make it more upsetting. My thoughts are with you and your family AnilS, I hope you all find a way to send him off together.

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

I’ve decided to stay out of a few threads I’ve seen and thought to comment on in the last few weeks because frankly I can’t believe some of the stuff I am reading. And on this forum, in years gone by, a personal tragedy would never have been so roundly ignored because people were only paying attention to the last time their comments were quoted.

I’d like to offer my sincere condolences - the loss of a parent at any time is indescribably hard, but the current circumstances must be very frustrating and only serving to make it more upsetting. My thoughts are with you and your family AnilS, I hope you all find a way to send him off together.

+1 condolences to you AnilS and basically sums up this thread.

Amazing that even after this is posted that other guy still bangs on about doing what he thinks is best outwith the rules and justifying himself. Strange.

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

I’ve decided to stay out of a few threads I’ve seen and thought to comment on in the last few weeks because frankly I can’t believe some of the stuff I am reading. And on this forum, in years gone by, a personal tragedy would never have been so roundly ignored because people were only paying attention to the last time their comments were quoted.

I’d like to offer my sincere condolences - the loss of a parent at any time is indescribably hard, but the current circumstances must be very frustrating and only serving to make it more upsetting. My thoughts are with you and your family AnilS, I hope you all find a way to send him off together.

Well said sir!
Was beginning to think I had misread AnilS's post as it was so completely ignored.
Very sad it has come down to this.

Same here Bing, a few times I've started to write something then thought better of it

Guys, thank you.

I'm fairly new to this forum. However, I'm well known on other forums, so I know how forums work.

I also know how things can be misread, misheard, misinterpreted and misunderstood.

I also know that some fcuking idiots will never listen, and that their own agenda is far more important than the message.

So let me put it a different way to ones that think everything is OK and you can justify ignoring the guidelines.

My deceased father in law, has 6 daughters. That means 6 son in laws, and several grandchildren. Cutting it to the bone, we are at 24 that need to attend the funeral. None of his siblings or anyone else.

We have been provisionally told, they will only allow 5. You do the maths.

So please, the OP quite rightly titled this thread appropriately. I'd like to say if anyone that still thinks its OK to flout the guidelines, come on over and join my wife and 2 kids for a cup of tea, and I'm sure you'll understand. But I know this is impossible.

But understand one thing. We watched him pass away, via video link (Zoom). All of his daughters were desperate to be with dad, in his last hours. They, at this most emotional moment, STILL followed the guidelines.

To hear the blood curdling cries of agony from all the family members when he passed away, is something none of us will ever forget.

And one final thing. My father in law was a strong and proud man, with underlying health conditions (83), but by the time CV19 had finished with him, we couldn't recognise him. Literally, 4-5 minutes later my wife was shouting that it didn't look like dad. This thing really fcuks you up.

I'm not sorry you have and to read this, but if it makes only one idiot think, then its been worth typing/sharing. I guarantee, you will not want to go through this or this enter your family circle.

God bless.

 

[enuff_zed]

[ref]AnilS[/ref], nothing anyone can add to that my friend.
Thank you for saying it.