Stay the fcuk at home (will offend some)

[Chris_D]

Anyone over the age of 6 knows that lots of people are selfish and don't think or care about others, but not all people. Some care or are misguided. The country is in a state of hysteria (not running around waving arms in the air) but unclear what other people will do. We have been given guidance about how this virus spreads and we have made up our own mind what the correct action should be. We need to protect ourselves against those that we think ignore correct advice. Don't criticise others when you don't fully know their reasons, just make sure that they don't affect you by their actions. I have never met anyone on this forum but 'know' them through their comments, some humorous, some not so, but if the forum is an indication of what is really happening, then I worry, because I have seen a change in comments from people I thought were knowledgeable, capable people and that disappoints me.

People watching is endlessly fascinating... When we all stick to the topic we generally agree on (ie Z4s) then we by and large all get on. As soon as we start to drift onto other topics, you start to see little slivers of an individual's character that you conciously or sub-consciously construct into a picture of the whole.

Brexit was a good one for this - following the airing of views, there are a few people from whom I would probably still quite happily take their car advice, but I wouldn't necessarily want to go and have a pint with them.

But Brexit wasn't a matter of life or death - Covid19 has introduced a whole new level of paranoia, selfishness and stupidity into the debate that has amazed and amused me at the same time. On the plus side, there have been voices of moderation and sage advice, but some people have far too much time and predjudice on their hands - I for one won't hold some people on here in quite the same regard as previously...

By the same token, I've seen members who would otherwise sit back and meekly watch the fireworks going off in a thread come to the fore spouting judgemental, self-righteous, holier-than-thou, vindictive rhetoric towards those who are actually brave enough to formulate and share opinions.
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[john-e89]

Staying at home as much as possible as I’m pretty nervous of getting this thing after complications for AF which is now coming back...I guess people that are fine and never had anything don't really get the seriousness hence the flounting of the advice. I doubt you’ll ever get it through to them until something happens unfortunately.

 

[pvr]

Staying at home as much as possible as I’m pretty nervous of getting this thing after complications for AF which is now coming back...I guess people that are fine and never had anything don't really get the seriousness hence the flounting of the advice. I doubt you’ll ever get it through to them until something happens unfortunately.

Coming back ??? I hope not John

 

[john-e89]

Staying at home as much as possible as I’m pretty nervous of getting this thing after complications for AF which is now coming back...I guess people that are fine and never had anything don't really get the seriousness hence the flounting of the advice. I doubt you’ll ever get it through to them until something happens unfortunately.

Coming back ??? I hope not John

The timing is perfect.... :roll: but not that unexpected Paul, the surgeon said it could well happen but he can go in again up to 6 times so shouldn’t be an issue. Back on beta blockers for now as the heart is racing at times and I’m struggling to breathe when it does hence I’d really really rather not get the virus until a vaccine is developed.

 

[Lynchy]

Staying at home as much as possible as I’m pretty nervous of getting this thing after complications for AF which is now coming back...I guess people that are fine and never had anything don't really get the seriousness hence the flounting of the advice. I doubt you’ll ever get it through to them until something happens unfortunately.

Coming back ??? I hope not John

The timing is perfect.... :roll: but not that unexpected Paul, the surgeon said it could well happen but he can go in again up to 6 times so shouldn’t be an issue. Back on beta blockers for now as the heart is racing at times and I’m struggling to breathe when it does hence I’d really really rather not get the virus until a vaccine is developed.

Best not take delivery of these aeros yet then John as one look at them your heart will race even more :wink: take care

 

[enuff_zed]

Coming back ??? I hope not John

The timing is perfect.... :roll: but not that unexpected Paul, the surgeon said it could well happen but he can go in again up to 6 times so shouldn’t be an issue. Back on beta blockers for now as the heart is racing at times and I’m struggling to breathe when it does hence I’d really really rather not get the virus until a vaccine is developed.

Best not take delivery of these aeros yet then John as one look at them your heart will race even more :wink: take care

Perhaps then ,given the way some of these latest threads have evolved, we should dispense with NSFW and start using NSFJ, so John can keep his heart rate in check.

 

[R.E92]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it. I've heard the argument that non essential journeys may result in a crash and therefore need the emergency services but I personally think that argument is bullshit on many levels. When I'm out running I rarely see another person, I certainly don't get within 2 meters or share any fluids with them!

People get quite emotive about this topic and result to absurd arguments about marginal eventualities and the possible knock-on effects of those marginal outcomes on puppies or vulnerable orphans. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

 

[enuff_zed]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it. I've heard the argument that non essential journeys may result in a crash and therefore need the emergency services but I personally think that argument is bullshit on many levels. When I'm out running I rarely see another person, I certainly don't get within 2 meters or share any fluids with them!

People get quite emotive about this topic and result to absurd arguments about marginal eventualities and the possible knock-on effects of those marginal outcomes on puppies or vulnerable orphans. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

Do you run with your hands over your ears, chanting 'la-la-la-la-la', just in case.

 

[Anonymous]

Anyone over the age of 6 knows that lots of people are selfish and don't think or care about others, but not all people. Some care or are misguided. The country is in a state of hysteria (not running around waving arms in the air) but unclear what other people will do. We have been given guidance about how this virus spreads and we have made up our own mind what the correct action should be. We need to protect ourselves against those that we think ignore correct advice. Don't criticise others when you don't fully know their reasons, just make sure that they don't affect you by their actions. I have never met anyone on this forum but 'know' them through their comments, some humorous, some not so, but if the forum is an indication of what is really happening, then I worry, because I have seen a change in comments from people I thought were knowledgeable, capable people and that disappoints me.

People watching is endlessly fascinating... When we all stick to the topic we generally agree on (ie Z4s) then we by and large all get on. As soon as we start to drift onto other topics, you start to see little slivers of an individual's character that you conciously or sub-consciously construct into a picture of the whole.

Brexit was a good one for this - following the airing of views, there are a few people from whom I would probably still quite happily take their car advice, but I wouldn't necessarily want to go and have a pint with them.

But Brexit wasn't a matter of life or death - Covid19 has introduced a whole new level of paranoia, selfishness and stupidity into the debate that has amazed and amused me at the same time. On the plus side, there have been voices of moderation and sage advice, but some people have far too much time and predjudice on their hands - I for one won't hold some people on here in quite the same regard as previously...

Good observation..bit like Tinder vs reality I assume?

 

[Anonymous]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it.

. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

Lets hope 67m others in the UK join you..

 

[R.E92]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it.

. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

Lets hope 67m others in the UK join you..

Give it time and I think they will!

On a cold overcast day most people opt to stay in anyway. The real test for the lockdown will be the first sunny spell.

In my circle of friends there's varying levels of conformity, some are relaxed about it like me, some are going along with it because they feel a sense of social expectation and others are quite anxious about it and staying indoors completely. I expect that as the lockdown carries on for weeks and months that people with gradually get more open to the idea of non-conformity.

I have friends in South Korea and apparently the group mentality has shifted from a state of panic and lockdown to what the media are calling a "f**k it" mentality. It lasted barely 3 weeks then the warm weather arrived and people almost uniformly decided to just get out and live life normally again.

 

[-Tom-]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it.

. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

Lets hope 67m others in the UK join you..

Give it time and I think they will!

On a cold overcast day most people opt to stay in anyway. The real test for the lockdown will be the first sunny spell.

In my circle of friends there's varying levels of conformity, some are relaxed about it like me, some are going along with it because they feel a sense of social expectation and others are quite anxious about it and staying indoors completely. I expect that as the lockdown carries on for weeks and months that people with gradually get more open to the idea of non-conformity.

I have friends in South Korea and apparently the group mentality has shifted from a state of panic and lockdown to what the media are calling a "f**k it" mentality. It lasted barely 3 weeks then the warm weather arrived and people almost uniformly decided to just get out and live life normally again.

That's all very well in South Korea, but they've tested and potentially managed the problem better anyway.

 

[slick]

I only go to the shops for food , although I cant see a reason to limit a drive on your own , after all isn't a car with just the driver in it a good example of self isolating ?
And if you insist on handwringing/curtain twitching why not pen a letter to TFL about the overcrowding on the tube on a daily basis during this crisis. :|

 

[john-e89]

The timing is perfect.... :roll: but not that unexpected Paul, the surgeon said it could well happen but he can go in again up to 6 times so shouldn’t be an issue. Back on beta blockers for now as the heart is racing at times and I’m struggling to breathe when it does hence I’d really really rather not get the virus until a vaccine is developed.

Best not take delivery of these aeros yet then John as one look at them your heart will race even more :wink: take care

Perhaps then ,given the way some of these latest threads have evolved, we should dispense with NSFW and start using NSFJ, so John can keep his heart rate in check.

You’re gonna have it start charging storage fees soon Eddie..... :lol:

 

[maxman]

I'm one of those people still exercising and heading out to the hills and also having the odd non-essential drive.

I don't see any risk of transmission in my activity so I keep doing it. I've heard the argument that non essential journeys may result in a crash and therefore need the emergency services but I personally think that argument is bullshit on many levels. When I'm out running I rarely see another person, I certainly don't get within 2 meters or share any fluids with them!

People get quite emotive about this topic and result to absurd arguments about marginal eventualities and the possible knock-on effects of those marginal outcomes on puppies or vulnerable orphans. I'm making my own personal judgement and weighing up the outcomes, I know that might annoy the hypochondriacs.

I suppose you don't want treating when or if you get the virus,probably won't isolate either as you know better than the experts.

 

[AnilS]

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

 

[enuff_zed]

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

A lot more of the 'do what I want' brigade should be paying attention to your posts!!!

Having had to make that journey myself in the past I can only offer my condolences.

The issue is that even if one of these idiots who thinks it's alright to wander out because they don't really care for others is an asymptomatic carrier, they could end up causing some other innocent soul to be making the same journey as you in a few days or weeks time.

Long may your memories stay with you.

 

[Lynchy]

Best not take delivery of these aeros yet then John as one look at them your heart will race even more :wink: take care

Perhaps then ,given the way some of these latest threads have evolved, we should dispense with NSFW and start using NSFJ, so John can keep his heart rate in check.

You’re gonna have it start charging storage fees soon Eddie..... :lol:

Now there's a thought :evil:

 

[TitanTim]

Yes there's plenty of selfish people in denial who believe this is just an annoyance and upsetting their daily life, we musn't be doing that must we. The sorry tale is people are risking their lives each day to look after infected patients whilst the selfish feckers ignore the advice and do what they like, why, because they can't or won't face with reality. It probably touches a raw nerve with me as my mum secumbed to pneumonia which can be the result of the current virus. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, it's a horrible way to die. All I can see is hundreds of people dying each day, that's enough for me to stay away from people unless absolutely necessary and minimise any risk of me passing the virus on. I might have the virus not even realise it. All this means is not pleasing oneself and waving two fingers to the establishment because one has a chip on their shoulder.

Tim.

 

[AnilS]

Had to do some "essential travel" today with my wife to pick up the death certificate. Then take to the registrar's office.

People observed seem to be behaving sensibly but there seemed to be quite a few cars on the road.
Not sure if they had essential journeys or avoiding public transport?

All I know is, I don't want anyone to do the essential travel I had to do today.

A lot more of the 'do what I want' brigade should be paying attention to your posts!!!

Having had to make that journey myself in the past I can only offer my condolences.

The issue is that even if one of these idiots who thinks it's alright to wander out because they don't really care for others is an asymptomatic carrier, they could end up causing some other innocent soul to be making the same journey as you in a few days or weeks time.

Long may your memories stay with you.

Thank you.