Staggered vs Square Setup 18”

R60BBA said:
hopz121 said:
Wheels look great OP :thumbsup:

What tyre sizes are those?

Have you lowered it?

225/40 + 255/35

No but planning to!
Howcome you didn't go for a more square set up in the end?
From the pictures your car looks lowered about 30mm already, definitely check the springs before you buy new ones
 
hopz121 said:
It looks pretty low already IMO

Have you checked the springs that are on it?

No but it could go lower.

I’ll check on the weekend.
 

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philbo909 said:
R60BBA said:
hopz121 said:
Wheels look great OP :thumbsup:

What tyre sizes are those?

Have you lowered it?

225/40 + 255/35

No but planning to!
Howcome you didn't go for a more square set up in the end?
From the pictures your car looks lowered about 30mm already, definitely check the springs before you buy new ones

Good question.

2 reasons:

1. Cost - there are only 2 legitimate vendors in the UK that sell 437m reps (CM Wheels and Skidz) [There is a 3rd vendor in North London but I question their legitimacy]. Skidz sell 437m reps in a square set up and CM staggered, but Skidz were looking for an extra £150 including postage and packaging. (Plus I also managed to get a free set of Bimecc bolts from CM - I highly recommend them).

2. Conservatism / fear of change - I am used to driving with a staggered set up and will be taking the car to the Nurburgring this May. A square set up gives more oversteer and I guess there is always that fear of not catching a corner and subsequently being charged a grand just to fix a couple pieces of Armco. The staggered set up provides me with more predictably and thus less worry :thumbsup:
 
R60BBA said:
philbo909 said:
R60BBA said:
225/40 + 255/35

No but planning to!
Howcome you didn't go for a more square set up in the end?
From the pictures your car looks lowered about 30mm already, definitely check the springs before you buy new ones

Good question.

2 reasons:

1. Cost - there are only 2 legitimate vendors in the UK that sell 437m reps (CM Wheels and Skidz) [There is a 3rd vendor in North London but I question their legitimacy]. Skidz sell 437m reps in a square set up and CM staggered, but Skidz were looking for an extra £150 including postage and packaging. (Plus I also managed to get a free set of Bimecc bolts from CM - I highly recommend them).

2. Conservatism / fear of change - I am used to driving with a staggered set up and will be taking the car to the Nurburgring this May. A square set up gives more oversteer and I guess there is always that fear of not catching a corner and subsequently being charged a grand just to fix a couple pieces of Armco. The staggered set up provides me with more predictably and thus less worry :thumbsup:

Nice, that's more than enough reason! car looks awesome by the way :thumbsup:
 
Just seen this thread. Looks good I love my square setup!- I'm running 9.5" 265/35-18 all round on a MC,

The increased traction on the front end is superb.

If your running a Si make sure you fit the offset front bushes they increase caster and therefor mid corner grip!

Adam
 
not quite a square setup, but I run a 245/35 front and 255/35 rear on 18x8 and 8.5" rims for track work... wider fronts just gives a bit more neutrality to the steering when exiting corners and trying to get on the power - with narrow fronts the car would always want to drift wide on the exit.

oversteer is never a problem in the dry, trackday rubber at a 255 width is more than ample to keep the rears locked down. could still do with a bit more camber on the front though.
Sorry to revive and old thread but I recently saw on the forums how your Z4 is running a 245 front tire. I wanted to run a square setup on my car, so I was looking between a square setup of either 245/40/18 or 235/40/18. I was wondering if you had to modify anything in order to make the tires fit. I just recently did suspension and installed adjustable koni shocks but I'm on stock m-sport springs. I'm currently in the process of prepping the car for the canyons/track and wanted some help on this. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Sorry to revive and old thread but I recently saw on the forums how your Z4 is running a 245 front tire. I wanted to run a square setup on my car, so I was looking between a square setup of either 245/40/18 or 235/40/18. I was wondering if you had to modify anything in order to make the tires fit. I just recently did suspension and installed adjustable koni shocks but I'm on stock m-sport springs. I'm currently in the process of prepping the car for the canyons/track and wanted some help on this. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
I didn't make any mods at all to mine... standard e85 3.0i, standard 8"/8.5" wheels. All i would say is, 245/35 on an 8" rim was probably the max, ideally it would have been on a 9" width rim.

If you're staying on stock rims then id say 235 40 18 would be my optimal pick for a square setup.
 
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