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flybobbie

Elite
 Stourbridge
This stupid car.
Nearly got caught out by being in normal mode instead of sport.
Always set sport mode as soon as i start up. Stopped by a shop and forgot to set sport.
At my usual journeys dodgy turn, car goes flat as a fart trying to accelerate before a car appears over the blind hump.
It's just stupid having these different modes in 23i, it needs all it can deliver to get going.
Why can't it just remember the last mode selected.
Keep meaning to make a pulse circuit and relay just to set it automatically from start up, use power from cig lighter socket.

Just bought a Berlingo to make in to a mini camper.
Straight away a much nicer drive, doesn't follow every bump in the road, slick gearbox.
Thought the zed was going to be a refined car.
 
flybobbie said:
This stupid car.
Nearly got caught out by being in normal mode instead of sport.
Always set sport mode as soon as i start up. Stopped by a shop and forgot to set sport.
At my usual journeys dodgy turn, car goes flat as a fart trying to accelerate before a car appears over the blind hump.
It's just stupid having these different modes in 23i, it needs all it can deliver to get going.
Why can't it just remember the last mode selected.
Keep meaning to make a pulse circuit and relay just to set it automatically from start up, use power from cig lighter socket.

Just bought a Berlingo to make in to a mini camper.
Straight away a much nicer drive, doesn't follow every bump in the road, slick gearbox.
Thought the zed was going to be a refined car.
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Is that the same as a pick & stick path which holds up via one of its own up contacts? :?
Rob
 
If there is any thing in there similar to an E85, then they learn your driving patterns any way. One reason I have never botherd to press mine in 7 years of owner ship. I prefer the car to drive the way it does every time. The throttle is plenty sharp enough since it knows I like to push it all the way down. :wink:
 
Clutching at straws if you rely on the difference between sport mode to normal in order to greatly enhance the driving characteristics of a 23i E89 :cry: it altered the steering feel on my 23i , can't recall it ever adding a turbo to it :P
 
Throttle response improves in sport mode. Even if you floor the accelerator it take fraction of a second more to pick up in normal mode. Just annoying. I can understand the need on a 35i in say snow. On 23i feels like you towing a caravan.
I have not noticed this car learn driver style like the MGTF i owned.
That would go into sportier mode with a few brisk accelerations or could be reset by pumping the throttle several times after start to reset the memory. Almost like an instant tune up. Nice system.
 
That’s the problem when you build a platform that has several engines and changes over time..

There will be combinations that either need these facilities, can benefit from different modes and there are those where it’s a waste

One big issue is that comfort mode gets the best co2 mpg hence for no other reason it will be present..

On the N20 with a remap the need for sport mode is reduced most of the time, enough pick up in comfort mode..

Another benefit of modern auto boxes is the knock it across to go into sport mode...

I drive 3 cars with the same logic and I habitually just knock the auto shift across to get sport mode as a precursor to overtaking on almost all non dual carriageways :thumbsup:
 
certainly makes a difference on my 30i :)
pulls well anyway, but takes off like a scolded cat in sport.
yet to try sport plus :P
 
Does it actually make a real world difference in terms of timings for getting out of trouble? I can't see that a few milliseconds quicker response to kickdown is actually going to do anything in real-world conditions other than have a different bum-on-the-seat feel?
 
djstan said:
Does it actually make a real world difference in terms of timings for getting out of trouble? I can't see that a few milliseconds quicker response to kickdown is actually going to do anything in real-world conditions other than have a different bum-on-the-seat feel?
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Oh yes it does,

The starting revs for each gear is up by 1000-2000 rpm and the upshift takes place at max revs rather than short shifting...

Especally with the N20 turbos it makes a big big difference ..
 
markplant said:
Isn't there something in Carly that can make the remember it's last setting or was that a different function
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Carly can code the car to remember the last state of the stop/start function, I don’t think it can do the same with sport mode. :thumbsup:
Rob
 
Smartbear said:
markplant said:
Isn't there something in Carly that can make the remember it's last setting or was that a different function
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Carly can code the car to remember the last state of the stop/start function, I don’t think it can do the same with sport mode. :thumbsup:
Rob
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It might be the stop start I was remembering an getting mixed up , good call bear
 
I can understand it going back to normal for the 35i, but for the 23i it's a gimmick.
If you drive all the time in sport as i do, the old leg muscle memory is for the sportier response, only to get caught out in normal mode. So requires a push, realise your not in sport, then full throttle.
It's just annoying and unnecessary.
 
My daily turn. I need to turn right. Car emerge the other way doing 50-60 plus. Worst are low cars.
 

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A remap would be able to change the throttle map to be the same in normal and sport mode. I have done it on my 35i as it makes no sense to have the throttle pedal change between modes.

It won't make the auto box behave differently though, so unless your car is a manual the problem of a dimwitted gearbox will still be there.
 
Firstly don't blame the car for driver errors and lack of concentration or drive preparation.

I had my 80k miles 23i mapped by celtic tuning in Cornwall.
They only got about 8 extra BHP but the power delivery curves were altered.
The difference between normal and sport is very pronounced.
Performance in normal is good, economical, enjoyable and predictable.
In sport the car revs very easily and freely, you can hear it breathing. Take off is instantaneous, no lag at all.
I can pull away on the flat in second gear at full throttle and not have to change gear till nearly 60mph!
I also get really lovely exhaust popping at 'up' gearchanges and a lovely soft burble when slowing down in gear..
I would recommend a remap of the 23i to any owner.

Mapping is NOT all about BHP, it is also and in some cases more so about power delivery than just brute power.
Brute power is generally unuseable and at worst dangerous, who do you know who can seriously drive a fully mapped 3.5is round winding country lanes??? Not even the stig I would bet..
 
Funny. I’ve never noticed any difference in throttle response between Normal & Sport in my DCT 35i. The upchanges are a bit later in Sport which makes it feel a bit sportier but the power feels the same and kick down feel the same in all modes.
Lately I’ve been driving it in manual and using Sport mode just for the improved steering as I don’t like the feel of Normal as much, especially on wet roads where you need all the feedback you can get.
 
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