Spacers advice

[Rusky]

I can tell the difference. I just don't feel having 20mm spacers on the rear will be dramatically worse than having 10mm ones.

As long as it drives alright on the public road and on a country road blast of a weekend, that's more than enough for me.

All good helpful comments and individual experiences as usual thanks for the advice guys

 

[Anonymous]

Just remember to get longer bolts
H&r do some nice silver or black ones

 

[Rusky]

Just remember to get longer bolts
H&r do some nice silver or black ones

Will do

 

[Stuartt]

20mm rear 15mm front on standard Msport springs, I'd say it actually drives a bit better, Certainly looks better.

Stuart

 

[Mos6689]

Just been looking at spacers and its a mine field out there guys
So i have 18" rims, so what spacers do i get??? I am running eibachs
Do i get 20 rear, 15 front?
15 rear, 12 front?
or am i better going the same all round? 12? 15? 20?

I dont want to ruin the handling but i want the wheels to fill the arches better now its on the pro springs. Give me your opinions, advice and experience please, all will be much appreciated.

Russ

Hey rusky have u fitted yours yet? I'm running 18s on eibach suspension as well & wanted to go for 20/15 but I'm worried that they'll rub as the roads around me are a bit crappy. I'm not sure if 12mm on the back will fill the arches the way I want them too.

Any recommendations on brand as well?

Would be good to hear how you've found 12 all round and maybe some pics

 

[ben g]

You can fit 25mm spacers on the rears on eibach springs and not have any rubbing. 20mm are perfectly fine.

 

[Bumpy]

Listen to Mr. Wilks
I went with 20 / 15 as per his recommendation.
That's an E85 3.0SI with sport suspention
108's with stock sized staggered Michelin PSS (a meatier profile than stock run flats).
I'm totally happy.

Many here are also running 20 / 15.
Probably the most popular set up.
If you go smaller will you be able to live with yourself ?

 

[Mos6689]

Thanks Ben.

Just seen yours and it does look good!!

Are u happy with the 20/12? Did they fill the arches or would you go a bit bigger now you've done it?

 

[Mos6689]

Listen to Mr. Wilks
I went with 20 / 15 as per his recommendation.
That's an E85 3.0SI with sport suspention
108's with stock sized staggered Michelin PSS (a meatier profile than stock run flats).
I'm totally happy.

Many here are also running 20 / 15.
Probably the most popular set up.
If you go smaller will you be able to live with yourself ?

Haha! Good point bumpy! That's the dilemma I'm having! Don't want to go too small and be upset with the result but don't want to go to big and get rubbing.

Just popped out and measured it up as best I could and got 30mm for the back, so allowing for the arch lip 20mm looks perfect.

So with that being said I think I'll go with the 20/15 set up and pray for no rubbing!

 

[Steve84N]

I get some rubbing on the front with stock wheels and tyres using 10mm on B12 suspension with a harder H&R ARB. Should be alright not lowered though.

 

[Mos6689]

I get some rubbing on the front with stock wheels and tyres using 10mm on B12 suspension with a harder H&R ARB. Should be alright not lowered though.

Mine is lowered with eibach springs on 18s. This really is a pain in the backside deciding isn't it!

 

[Steve84N]

10mm all round if you ask me, it gives tangible handling improvements, keeps the relative track widths balanced, looks good and has no rear rubbing with minimal front.

 

[Rusky]

Going to order 12s all round tonight so when they are fitted i will post some pics.

 

[Bumpy]

Listen to Mr. Wilks
I went with 20 / 15 as per his recommendation.
That's an E85 3.0SI with sport suspention
108's with stock sized staggered Michelin PSS (a meatier profile than stock run flats).
I'm totally happy.

Many here are also running 20 / 15.
Probably the most popular set up.
If you go smaller will you be able to live with yourself ?

Haha! Good point bumpy! That's the dilemma I'm having! Don't want to go too small and be upset with the result but don't want to go to big and get rubbing.

Just popped out and measured it up as best I could and got 30mm for the back, so allowing for the arch lip 20mm looks perfect.

So with that being said I think I'll go with the 20/15 set up and pray for no rubbing!

No need to pray.
Mr. Wilks has a ton of real world Zed wheel experience.
He knows what he recommends.
Plus it's only a spacer, so you remove / replace or even sell off if somehow you aren't happy.
I got mine 'over here' via Ebay - Made in USA in California.
Included quality longer wheel bolts.

Isn't it amazing how so many compulsive disorder sufferers end up driving Zeds ?
We all understand that the damn things have to be perfect before we can relax.
Curses to those pot holes!
Death to those drivers that kick up road gravel !
Cause we all know the location of every paint chip and scuff !
Lord help me ...

 

[Mos6689]

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Listen to Mr. Wilks
I went with 20 / 15 as per his recommendation.
That's an E85 3.0SI with sport suspention
108's with stock sized staggered Michelin PSS (a meatier profile than stock run flats).
I'm totally happy.

Many here are also running 20 / 15.
Probably the most popular set up.
If you go smaller will you be able to live with yourself ?

Haha! Good point bumpy! That's the dilemma I'm having! Don't want to go too small and be upset with the result but don't want to go to big and get rubbing.

Just popped out and measured it up as best I could and got 30mm for the back, so allowing for the arch lip 20mm looks perfect.

So with that being said I think I'll go with the 20/15 set up and pray for no rubbing!

No need to pray.
Mr. Wilks has a ton of real world Zed wheel experience.
He knows what he recommends.
Plus it's only a spacer, so you remove / replace or even sell off if somehow you aren't happy.
I got mine 'over here' via Ebay - Made in USA in California.
Included quality longer wheel bolts.

Isn't it amazing how so many compulsive disorder sufferers end up driving Zeds ?
We all understand that the damn things have to be perfect before we can relax.
Curses to those pot holes!
Death to those drivers that kick up road gravel !
Cause we all know the location of every paint chip and scuff !
Lord help me ...

 

[MACK]

I've got 20mm rear and 15mm front on M Sport suspension currently and I do get rubbing on the front. However this is due to the fact I'm running the M tyre sizes which gives a bit of an improvement in ride quality but you loose about 11mm of arch clearance on the front, about the same as eibachs.
When I eventually get around to sorting the suspension out on mine (probably going B12) then I was initially going to try 12mm but may now go for 10mm on the front based on whats been said in this thread.
I also found a noticeable difference in how the car felt with spacers.
As for the rears, if its just looks your interested in 25mm would be fine, even with M tyres sizes on.

 

[Mos6689]

I've got 20mm rear and 15mm front on M Sport suspension currently and I do get rubbing on the front. However this is due to the fact I'm running the M tyre sizes which gives a bit of an improvement in ride quality but you loose about 11mm of arch clearance on the front, about the same as eibachs.
When I eventually get around to sorting the suspension out on mine (probably going B12) then I was initially going to try 12mm but may now go for 10mm on the front based on whats been said in this thread.
I also found a noticeable difference in how the car felt with spacers.
As for the rears, if its just looks your interested in 25mm would be fine, even with M tyres sizes on.

Thanks Mack. That's a pretty definitive answer for me! Surprised these tend to rub on the front as opposed to the back but hey ho! Guess I'll go 10mm on the front then!

The 20mm you've got on the back, do they fill the arch nicely or is there potential to go to 25mm without the upper side of the tyre extending beyond the arch?

When u say you've felt a noticeable difference in feel, I'm assuming good?

 

[MACK]

I've got 20mm rear and 15mm front on M Sport suspension currently and I do get rubbing on the front. However this is due to the fact I'm running the M tyre sizes which gives a bit of an improvement in ride quality but you loose about 11mm of arch clearance on the front, about the same as eibachs.
When I eventually get around to sorting the suspension out on mine (probably going B12) then I was initially going to try 12mm but may now go for 10mm on the front based on whats been said in this thread.
I also found a noticeable difference in how the car felt with spacers.
As for the rears, if its just looks your interested in 25mm would be fine, even with M tyres sizes on.

Thanks Mack. That's a pretty definitive answer for me! Surprised these tend to rub on the front as opposed to the back but hey ho! Guess I'll go 12mm on the front then!

The 20mm you've got on the back, do they fill the arch nicely or is there potential to go to 25mm without the upper side of the tyre extending beyond the arch?

When u say you've felt a noticeable difference in feel, good or bad?

In terms of feel, I preferred it, dont get me wrong its not a night and day difference but still noticeable. I think you can get away with 25mm on the back. If memory serves the standard M wheels poke out an extra 26mm on the rear when fitted to a non M zed and there's plenty running around with them on. Its a combination of the different offset and half an inch bigger wheel that does it.
On the front the wheel is the same size as a non M but the offset difference means they poke out 5mm more.

 

[Steve84N]

The more you widen the rear track compared to the front the more it will understeer. I noticed it when I just had 10mm rears on.

 

[MACK]

The more you widen the rear track compared to the front the more it will understeer. I noticed it when I just had 10mm rears on.

I have to admit this is my main worry with going to 10mm from 15mm on the front. I think I'm going to try pairing the "new "10mm front ones with the "old" 15mm front ones, but used on the rear (dumping the 20mm) in attempt to strike a decent balance between aesthetics and handling.