Some hate for the MC
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BMWZ4MC said:
If your into tracking your car and can handle snap oversteer and less than perfect suspension, an out of the box Z4M is still faster than an E46 M3 around most circuits. Most Journo's just prefers show boating to driving fast. :roll: RH had it perfectly The Z4M is a hot chilly, it can blow your mind if driven right, but handle with care. It's plain as day that the right Mods can turn the Z4M into something of a weapon even 14 years on. I like that about them and enjoy reading about project cars.
For road use modifying your car is a personal thing, mostly to do with adding a hobby in your life and giving you something to compare notes and discuss with others. It can improve your car in all sorts of ways. But you really don't need to. It's one of life's nice to haves. Long may it continue and long may we continue the debates.
It’s undoubtedly one of the more disappointing M cars that BMW have made and the engine is the stand-out feature - he got those things right.
Happens to be a great s/h buy now though, of course, especially with some of the handling gremlins ironed out and little bits of felt tape stuck everywhere.
Happens to be a great s/h buy now though, of course, especially with some of the handling gremlins ironed out and little bits of felt tape stuck everywhere.
Argenta said:
I don't think this is Chris Harris writing. This Top Gear article is a completely silly piece of writing and Chris Harris usually backs up his verdicts with subjective reasoning.
Chris Harris wrote the article on Pistonheads under his 'Tell me I'm wrong' series. He didn't pan the car so much as say that it disappointed him as he was expecting so much more based on it's superb looks and its recipe of fabulous S54 engine, stiff 2-seater chassis and no frills high-rev M'car concept. He also says that his verdict was when the car was new and now, as a used car proposition, it's superb because it's a bit different and spiky and a 'perfect antidote to the Boxster / Cayman'. Having owned both, including a 987.2 Cayman and the Z4MC at the same time, I couldn't agree with him more.
Interestingly, I bumped into Chris Harris at Dick Lovett Ferrari a few months ago. He was there with his 512TR and I had a brief chat with him and I asked him about the Z4M coupe. He said it was a stonking car.
Chris is clever enough to qualify his views with comments such as 'to my eyes'. The Top Gear article assumes that the readers will totally agree with the writers view of looks etc.
My personal view is that the front of the Z4M is one of it's best angles, and is beautifully clean without being over fussy.
Looks are always in the eyes of the beholder and any journalist that doesn't say the S54 is sublime is frankly a clown! :headbang:
I would disregard this article unless it's on paper and you have run out of toilet tissue!
How many people buy cars solely based on motoring journalist reviews.
I don't think I've ever bought a car just because Jeremy Clarkson, Chris Harris, Harry Metcalfe, and their peers said I should, nor have I not bought something that's been slated by them.
Although I do tend to spend about 6 months looking at my options before I buy anything (the Z4MC was only 3 months), but I tend to keep mine for years/decades rather than swap & change like some
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I very much liked the Cayman S I drove alongside the Z4MC, and if the price had been the same I might be in a Cayman S right now. However, the Cayman S was £10k more expensive for the same age/mileage (but slightly lower spec). But then that extra £10k brought an e46 CSL into the equation.
I don't think I've ever bought a car just because Jeremy Clarkson, Chris Harris, Harry Metcalfe, and their peers said I should, nor have I not bought something that's been slated by them.
Although I do tend to spend about 6 months looking at my options before I buy anything (the Z4MC was only 3 months), but I tend to keep mine for years/decades rather than swap & change like some
oke:I very much liked the Cayman S I drove alongside the Z4MC, and if the price had been the same I might be in a Cayman S right now. However, the Cayman S was £10k more expensive for the same age/mileage (but slightly lower spec). But then that extra £10k brought an e46 CSL into the equation.
nickw6666 said:
Interesting! Very cool.
I wrote what I did based on something he wrote years ago, I think on Pistonheads?
Later, this year actually, he did answer during his ”Covid Q&A’s” that the ”Z4M Roadster was slated when new but in the light of new cars is viewed differently” which does point to he’s sort of warmed to it.
Well he himself penned the Fiat Coupe, while at BMW he did not pen a thing himself, he was the manager there. As most of us know Anders Warming designed our E86.
Paolo Cantarella was head of Fiat Design.
The Fiat Coupe is in fact the only production car Bangle designed himself.
(Of course a car I’ve for 12years..
The best car I’ve had.)
Paolo Cantarella was head of Fiat Design.
The Fiat Coupe is in fact the only production car Bangle designed himself.
(Of course a car I’ve for 12years..
The best car I’ve had.)Attachments
As Mr Tidy says ' Craig Jamieson - whoever he is!'
Most of the old seasoned motoring journalists prefer yester-year cars. Manual (stick shift) with a sensible amount of power through the rear wheels and good handling.
Ignoring monetary value I would keep the Z4 over any 1000HP super/hyper car. Not being able to use all that power on public roads would truly frustrate most drivers.
Most of the old seasoned motoring journalists prefer yester-year cars. Manual (stick shift) with a sensible amount of power through the rear wheels and good handling.
Ignoring monetary value I would keep the Z4 over any 1000HP super/hyper car. Not being able to use all that power on public roads would truly frustrate most drivers.
