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PatDanz

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just uploaded latest version of firmware for sat nav - strangely took 1minute - must have been pretty up to date i guess.

inserted copied disc of maps... whole system has frozen - says "please wait"... and appears to be loading... 10 mins later i'm still waiting and can't eject disc.

The prognosis is not good - don't tell me - a whole new drive will be req'd ?
 
The os takes from a minute to five minutes to load.

If you loaded a copied disk then that piracy of copyright software and I guess you get what you deserve.

Try a few times and it will eject then go buy a legal disk or at least don't ask on forum about it
 
Ejecting the disk can be a real bugger, best bet is to somebody to help, but if your on your own lower the roof and open the drivers door. Disconnect the battery and leave a few minutes. Then reconnect the battery and quickly press the eject button to get the disk out, once it tries to access the disk you have had it.

Also ensure your firmware disk has been burnt at 1x speed.
 
got the bastard out. running firmware v27. put the old map disc in and all seems fine now. not gonna try that again - will enquire with my BMw independent tomorrow how much to srt me out with v32 firmware and latest maps...
 
cj10jeeper said:
The os takes from a minute to five minutes to load.

If you loaded a copied disk then that piracy of copyright software and I guess you get what you deserve.

Try a few times and it will eject then go buy a legal disk or at least don't ask on forum about it
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slightly patronising and presumptious response IMHO.
 
lacroupade said:
cj10jeeper said:
The os takes from a minute to five minutes to load.

If you loaded a copied disk then that piracy of copyright software and I guess you get what you deserve.

Try a few times and it will eject then go buy a legal disk or at least don't ask on forum about it
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slightly patronising and presumptious response IMHO.
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Well if you post about illegal software then that's what you can expect. Tell me the line 'inserted copied disc of maps' does not reasonably or atually refer to pirated software and I'll gladly retract any such comment.
 
You are perfectly at liberty to make such a comment, as I am to post my humble opinion. You may have a view about 'illegal software' but it isn't shared by the vast majority I'm afraid. :)
 
Frankly the position is a mod I'm charged with assisting in managing the site. If we openly discuss pirate software on here, supporting it, buying selling, copying or trading, then the forum exposes itself to issues with BMW and the owners of the software, hence any references to it are commented on and posters reminded.

If you don't like that then I'm sorry.
 
No need to be sorry. But your assertion is legally and commercially incorrect - lets leave it at that.

The poor bloke was asking for help and a simple "sorry I cannot discuss potentially pirated software here" would have sufficed, as opposed to "If you loaded a copied disk then that piracy of copyright software and I guess you get what you deserve."......

Next you'll be telling me you own a Z4 but you've never broken a speed limit......
 
I use a copied map disc in my NAV. I made a copy of the original disc that came with my car and put the original disc in a safe place. AFAIK it's legal to make a copy of your own disc and use it If the op did not own the master disc, yeah that's not legal and should not be discussed on this forum.

On a positive note, I upgraded my firmware from v27 to v32, changed the warning text and splash screen which is now a picture of my car. Was pretty easy using info from http://www.bimmernav.com/software.htm and x5world
 
PatDanz said:
is there any difference between firmaweare v27 and v32 - the guy that sold me it reckons not !!!
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iirc there are no updates in the os related to the MKIV sat nav after around V26, so once you have the 3D view that's around it, so the vendor is correct
 
And just to add that - while neither condoning nor condemning piracy - the UK does not have a 'fair use' law in relation to software, music or film. Most people seem to jump on the US 'fair use' bandwagon which of cource is not valid this side of the pond.

Therefore any copy of a tape, CD or DVD you make of a commercial product is 'piracy' - or more correctly 'copyright theft'.

So all those old 'mix tapes' and 'mix CDs' you've made in the past are illegal - you naughty boys :poke:
 
mmm-five said:
And just to add that - while neither condoning nor condemning piracy - the UK does not have a 'fair use' law in relation to software, music or film. Most people seem to jump on the US 'fair use' bandwagon which of cource is not valid this side of the pond.
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actually, in this case:

Acts that are allowed

Fair dealing is a term used to describe acts which are permitted to a certain degree without infringing the work, these acts are:

* Private and research study purposes.
* Performance, copies or lending for educational purposes.
* Criticism and news reporting.
* Incidental inclusion.
* Copies and lending by librarians.
* Acts for the purposes of royal commissions, statutory enquiries, judicial proceedings and parliamentary purposes.
* Recording of broadcasts for the purposes of listening to or viewing at a more convenient time, this is known as "time shifting".
* Producing a back up copy for personal use of a computer program.
* Playing sound recording for a non profit making organisation, club or society.

(Profit making organisations and individuals should obtain a license from PRS for Music.)
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source: http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk
 
TH3R4POR said:
actually, in this case:

Acts that are allowed

Fair dealing is a term used to describe acts which are permitted to a certain degree without infringing the work, these acts are:

* Private and research study purposes.
* Performance, copies or lending for educational purposes.
* Criticism and news reporting.
* Incidental inclusion.
* Copies and lending by librarians.
* Acts for the purposes of royal commissions, statutory enquiries, judicial proceedings and parliamentary purposes.
* Recording of broadcasts for the purposes of listening to or viewing at a more convenient time, this is known as "time shifting".
* Producing a back up copy for personal use of a computer program.
* Playing sound recording for a non profit making organisation, club or society.

(Profit making organisations and individuals should obtain a license from PRS for Music.)
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source: http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk
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But you're not making a 'back-up for personal use' - you're making a copy to modify! I don't think anyone would get prosecuted for doing such themselves as there's no money in it for the prosecution - unless you decide to sell them of course :wink:
 
mmm-five said:
But you're not making a 'back-up for personal use' - you're making a copy to modify! I don't think anyone would get prosecuted for doing such themselves as there's no money in it for the prosecution - unless you decide to sell them of course :wink:
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I have only modified the firmware disc, not the map disc. The firmware disc has the colors, text and splash screens, all of which I have modified for personal use.

Also, even if there aren't documented changes between versions, that just means there aren't any new features or major bug fixes included. That does not mean there isn't any minor bug fixes and tweaks done to the software.
 
pungo said:
Also, even if there aren't documented changes between versions, that just means there aren't any new features or major bug fixes included. That does not mean there isn't any minor bug fixes and tweaks done to the software.
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From what I understand from the guys on what was X5 world there are no changes, fixes or tweaks since V26 applicable to the current MkIV DVD system. It's in steady state. I would go with whatever they say as they have been reverse engineering the stuff for a decade and I along with many used to await the next version to have a play with, see what we could find different, etc.
 
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