SoCal VANOS seals clinic

ZetaTre

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 San Diego County
I'm trying to put together 6 people interested in doing it. If I buy the parts required for 6 kits, Beisan and my dealer can get a better discount and it will cost $120 per kit instead of $133 (this price includes the Beisan kit and the valve cover gaskets). This mod applies to all Z4 pre-facelift: BMW had never changed the VANOS design. It also applies to all Z3 with 6-cylinders engine.

I already have 2 cars on my list so I would like to get 4 more. I will be more than happy to do the job (free of charge of course)...

For these of you not familiar with this, here's the FAQ from the Beisan Systems website. Beisan is the manufacturer of the VANOS upgrade kit. Also you can read Shipkiller's experience here.

What’s a vanos?
Vanos is BMW’s name for its engine variable valve timing unit.

What’s variable valve timing?
Variable valve timing is a way of modifying the engine intake and/or exhaust valve opening/closing timing dynamically to provide improved engine performance.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft.htm
http://www.bmwworld.com/technology/vanos.htm

What’s wrong with my vanos?
If you own a BMW 6-cylinder single vanos car, engines M50TU, M52, US S50, S52, 1992-1999, or double vanos car, engines M52TU, M54, M56, 1998-2006. , then your vanos is experiencing a failure. These vanos units utilize engine oil and pistons/cylinders to manipulate the positioning of gears to facilitate variable valve timing. The seals on the pistons are leaking due to deteriorating seal O-rings. This leakage is causing the vanos to fail in its function.

Why are the vanos piston O-rings failing?
The OEM O-rings are made from Buna, and this material is not capable of resisting the engine temperature and chemical environment. As an outcome the O-rings are hardening, shrinking, and flattening. This causes them to lose their functional characteristics causing the vanos to fail.

What are the symptoms of a failing vanos?
Overall loss of torque and power, particularly in the lower RPM range, < 3k. Bogging then surging at 3k RPM. Uneven power distribution and RPM transition. Engine hesitations in the lower RPM range, < 3k. Louder idle and intermittent idle RPM hiccups. Difficult takeoffs. Loss of power and bogging when AC on. Increased fuel consumption.
Double vanos cars with the M52TU engine (98/99-00) experience cold weather cold start idle jolts and possible stall.

What are the benefits of repairing the vanos?
Overall increase in torque and power, particularly in the lower RPM range, < 3k. Resolution of bogging then surging at 3k RPM. Smooth even distribution of power and RPM transition. Resolution of engine hesitations in the lower RPM range, < 3k. Quiet stable idle. Smooth easy takeoffs. Improved performance when AC on. Reduced fuel consumption, by ~10%.
Resolution of double vanos M52TU engine (98/99-00) cold weather cold start idle jolts and possible stall.

How can I verify my vanos is failing?
On M52TU engine cars (98/99-00) experiencing cold weather cold start idle jolts and possible stall, the vanos intake solenoid (metal cylinder) electrical connector can be disconnected. If the idle jolts cease then the problem is most likely the vanos.
On other cars the vanos needs to be removed from the engine for inspection. Once the vanos cylinder covers are removed, an inspection of the piston seals fit in the cylinders will show a loose fit and thus a seals failure. Removal of the seals from the pistons will show the inner O-rings have flat spots and a loss of elasticity.
In general, a diagnosis is not necessary. The vanos Buna O-rings are deteriorating in 20k miles (32k kilometers). Thus essentially all the cars with these vanos units have deteriorated O-rings and a failing vanos.

Should I install a new vanos?
A new (rebuilt) BMW vanos costs ~$500 and unfortunately comes with the same Buna O-rings. Thus the new unit will function well at first, but the O-rings will begin to deteriorate in short order and the vanos will start failing.

Is there a good solution to the vanos problem?
To correctly address the vanos problem the piston O-rings need to be replaced with O-rings made from higher grade material. BMW has been engaged on this subject and has elected to not address the issue, “No further development will be done”.
To replace the piston O-rings on a vanos requires removing the piston Teflon seals to access the underneath O-rings. Removing the Teflon seals necessarily damages them, thus both the O-rings and Teflon seals need to be replaced. Beisan Systems (http://www.beisansystems.com) provides vanos seals kits that include both the upgraded O-rings and Teflon seals. Repair procedures are also provided for reference.
 
You know, i didn't really know why I was getting the Vanos done, but now that I read the symptom's, I see that I need it. I will of course be there since I am one of the 2 guys. Are you the 3rd person or 2nd?
 
Cool Z4 said:
You know, i didn't really know why I was getting the Vanos done, but now that I read the symptom's, I see that I need it. I will of course be there since I am one of the 2 guys. Are you the 3rd person or 2nd?

Our Z4 is car #2: I'm actually planing on working on Mary's car before doing yours so I can learn the tricks and whatnot...

Btw, what are the symptoms that you're experiencing?
 
I did this repair last year to my car and another to someone's elses car. I posted the threads on the board. It really was not that hard. It takes about four hours.

Make sure you replace the valve cover/spark plug well gaskets. They come as a kit and cost about $35.00.

Getting the old o-rings/square rings out is a pain because they have hardened up. Don't scratch the seating surface....

The one other car that I performed this on, I did have a problem with getting the Vanos unit out of the car because of one of the clearance between the vanos mounting studs and the front cross frame. I had to cut three threads from the stud to get the vanos out.
 
Shipkiller said:
Make sure you replace the valve cover/spark plug well gaskets. They come as a kit and cost about $35.00.

That's actually why it comes out to $120: $55 for the Beisen kit, $32 for the valve cover gasket, $15 for valve cover bolt grommets, $5 for the gasket between the VANOS and the head, and $10 for some other parts I want to have available in case the original are damaged.

Shipkiller said:
Getting the old o-rings/square rings out is a pain because they have hardened up. Don't scratch the seating surface....

I have a set of o-rings hooks that works like a charm in removing them without damaging the seats. Here's the link. I use them when removing the o-rings from the oil cap and they work great

Shipkiller said:
The one other car that I performed this on, I did have a problem with getting the Vanos unit out of the car because of one of the clearance between the vanos mounting studs and the front cross frame. I had to cut three threads from the stud to get the vanos out.

I've read about your experience and have spoke to Rajaie who told me the same. Have you thought about loosening the bolts holding the cross member to be able to move it a little bit: as you said it's just a matter of few millimeters. That's what I'm gonna do.
 
The cross member is not unboltable. It is the welded frame componant that the radiator is bolted to.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BT33&mospid=47798&btnr=41_1479&hg=41&fg=10
Piece nine.
 
Luca, any date for this yet? If I have the time, I wouldn't mind getting my hands dirty helping with the project. Sounds like a great way to learn more about the car.
 
Shipkiller said:
The cross member is not unboltable. It is the welded frame componant that the radiator is bolted to.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BT33&mospid=47798&btnr=41_1479&hg=41&fg=10
Piece nine.

Sorry Shipkiller, but I think it is bolted. If you look at the diagram #9 has bolts linked to it, also if you pop the hood you can see it's bolted and it's black regardless the body color which means it was assembled after the chassis went through the painting process and no welding is done afterwards.

Incompatible said:
Luca, any date for this yet? If I have the time, I wouldn't mind getting my hands dirty helping with the project. Sounds like a great way to learn more about the car.

I wouldn't schedule more than 2 cars per day so it's probably spread out on various dates. The earliest I have now scheduled is for April 25th and it's gonna be CoolZ4
 
if anyone can put together something like this in the Houston area,let me know, i would like to do this also,will contribute anyway i can,would be nice way to meet others in the area,as well as do this important upgrade to the cars. i had planned to have an indy shop do this ,but if something can be put togethe,it would be better. :driving:
 
Z4INHTOWN said:
if anyone can put together something like this in the Houston area,let me know, i would like to do this also,will contribute anyway i can,would be nice way to meet others in the area,as well as do this important upgrade to the cars. i had planned to have an indy shop do this ,but if something can be put togethe,it would be better. :driving:

If I can't put together the 6 people I need I can just send you the extra kit for the same price we would pay. Let me know if that's good for you. I will maintain S&H to a minimal (everything would fit in a padded envelope).
 
sure thing, let me know something ,i haven't posted much in the last months,but i'm gonna try to stay on top of things ,so just let me know,thanks.

:thumbsup:
 
So this is the last week. If people are interested gotta let me know by the end of day Thursday, cuz Friday I'll place the order.

For these of you interested in viewing the procedure, Saturday April 25th and Sunday April 26th will be the dates.
 
OT (somewhat): Does anyone know if the N52 engine in the 2006+ 3.0si has the same susceptibility?
 
It looks like the N52 has a totally newly designed VANOS that does not have any problem. However I would give a call to Rajaie at Beisan.
 
Shipkiller said:
Negative.

BMW fixed this issue from late 2005 onward...

BMW never fixed the issue with VANOS used in the M54. They completely redesigned the unit with the N52 and probably end up using the proper material (Viton) for the seals. All M54 have the issue and the current VANOS assembly sold by BMW for the M54 still use the same Buna seals and the same bearing race design.
 
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