So what next after 'dead4'?

Stevo1987

Senior member
 Breckland, Norfolk
So, hopefully, soon, if Audi stop p*ssing me about, I will have my money back. What next? I still haven't made up my mind what to do. I have considered the various options - Don't buy another car. Throw more money at it. i.e. a G29. Buy another 35is which I think is highly unlikely. Get something cheaper. At the moment the get something cheaper is somewhat appealing. I'm thinking 2.0 28i M Sport. Manual gearbox, 18 inch wheels. Maybe newer that the dead4 35is but still cheaper. What do think 2.0 28i M Sport owners and fellow Zedders? Help me out as I don't know what to do.
 
We are all different. But I can't imagine wafting around in a 2.0 28i M Sport after a 35is. Is it a daily?
 
No, defo not a daily. I could probably get away with no car seeing the wife has hers and I work from home. It is a total extravagance. :D
 
Variable. I paid £18.5k for the 35is which I thought was reasonable for the year and mileage. Here it is at BMW waiting to be picked up. Sad. I liked it. :( Z4.jpeg
 
Stevo1987 said:
No, defo not a daily. I could probably get away with no car seeing the wife has hers and I work from home. It is a total extravagance. :D

If there is Garage space, then an ///MR would fill the gap nicely. It's a less complicated car and the better for it as a toy, IMHO. :driving: :thumbsup:

And a week away with the Mrs from the change. :D
 
E85 Z4M

Affordable (ish) a good drive most will want a bit of money and time spending on them, as a second car you can take your time and spread the cost.

Items that come to mind to spend money on are,
Full fluids change and filters
Full vanos service
Suspension new shocks and some bushes
Rod bearings, have the oil pressure relief valve checked at the same time.
 
PDJ said:
E85 Z4M

Affordable (ish) a good drive most will want a bit of money and time spending on them, as a second car you can take your time and spread the cost.

Items that come to mind to spend money on are,
Full fluids change and filters
Full vanos service
Suspension new shocks and some bushes
Rod bearings, have the oil pressure relief valve checked at the same time.

Blimey what was wrong with the 35i to consider this type of car with these problems.
 
They are not problems

But after 13 or so years things don’t last for ever and some is preventative.
 
PDJ said:
E85 Z4M

Affordable (ish) a good drive most will want a bit of money and time spending on them, as a second car you can take your time and spread the cost. A decent one seems more expensive than my 35is. I don't think that version is for me. Maybe a younger person. Road tax and fuel consumption is pretty high as well. Ok, if sorn half the year I suppose, which is what I did with my 944 turbo a long time ago.

Items that come to mind to spend money on are,
Full fluids change and filters
Full vanos service
Suspension new shocks and some bushes
Rod bearings, have the oil pressure relief valve checked at the same time.
 
Well you can go two routes..

This is all IMHO

A 28i is not much slower in the real world than a 35i....the auto 8 speed box is great and much better than the 7 speed DSG in almost all regards..you can get 28i for less money than a 35i for the same spec and mileage...so you can go cheaper or newer or more toys..

The thinking man’s option is to go for a 20i as they are much more plentiful then get it remapped to around 285bhp...40 more than a 28i...then it goes very well, but that brings more emphasis on the 8 speed auto as it’s much faster/adept than the 6 speed manual, and you can always put it manual mode anyway..

The 18i 20i 28i are around 100kg lighter than the 35i and that means around corners they handle much better and they just don’t get edgy when pushed..

I tried a 35is after I remapped my 20i and found it a point and squirt then wobble around the corner in comparison...had gone to buy it with 17.5k cash in my hand..car was pretty much perfect..walked away under whelmed..

Of course some people like that slightly out of control feel and.or must have the biggest..I did this many times in the past and I was never happier as a result..

There are a limited number of issues with the N20 engine but it pails into insignificance against the 35i..

For what’s its worth the Z4M seem to turn into money pits quite quickly so would see a 35i to Z4M as a frying pan into fire job...

Of course if you are great at mechanicing with a nice garage and the time then other options become available...
 
If it has to be an E89 I'd go for the 30i you still get that sweet inline 6 but without the complications of the N54 and they are rarer than most of the other engines. You could pick a very good low mileage example for around 11 to 13K. I am bit biased though since I have one :lol: Other then that as someone else has suggested I think the E86 M Coupe would be a good weekend toy!
 
Silverstar said:
If it has to be an E89 I'd go for the 30i you still get that sweet inline 6 but without the complications of the N54 and they are rarer than most of the other engines. You could pick a very good low mileage example for around 11 to 13K. I am bit biased though since I have one :lol: Other then that as someone else has suggested I think the E86 M Coupe would be a good weekend toy!

It’s not going to be any newer than the op’s 35is though, they stopped the 30i in 2011 didn’t they? :?
Rob
 
It all really depends on what you value in a car, since the car is purely a toy you want something that makes you smile and if that's speed and a great sounding engine the 3 litre twin turbo is the only choice. If engine and exhaust note is not something you're bothered about and you just want a convertible to waft around in then the 20i would do the job and be cheaper to keep on the road.

The 30i sounds great but give it a couple of weeks and you'll be back on the forums asking how to get more power out of it!

I wouldn't be put off the DCT in the 35i and 35is models, it shifts faster than the standard 8 speed auto and provides more dramatic gear changes without the normal torque converter slip you get in the 8 speed. But for a car that's purely a toy you might want to consider a manual.

For other marques you could look at the TTRS for something great sounding and rapid, or spend a little more and get a Jaguar F-Type, that's the king of toy cars :driving:
 
Stevo1987 said:
No 28i owners with an opinion? :)

There are around 7,000 E89s 20i in uk vs 1200 28i...the 28i charged circa 3k premium for an almost technically identical car so not many forum members went that way ..US is different as 20i wasn’t sold there
 
R.E92 said:
It all really depends on what you value in a car, since the car is purely a toy you want something that makes you smile and if that's speed and a great sounding engine the 3 litre twin turbo is the only choice. If engine and exhaust note is not something you're bothered about and you just want a convertible to waft around in then the 20i would do the job and be cheaper to keep on the road.

The 30i sounds great but give it a couple of weeks and you'll be back on the forums asking how to get more power out of it!

I wouldn't be put off the DCT in the 35i and 35is models, it shifts faster than the standard 8 speed auto and provides more dramatic gear changes without the normal torque converter slip you get in the 8 speed. But for a car that's purely a toy you might want to consider a manual.

For other marques you could look at the TTRS for something great sounding and rapid, or spend a little more and get a Jaguar F-Type, that's the king of toy cars :driving:

Just to clarify...the ZF8HP box shifts at 200ms which is slower than the 35i getrag box, but not by much...it’s interesting to note the 28i manual is nearly 0.5 sec slower to 60 than the auto as a human can’t shift as fast as the ZF box...that’s why it’s now standard on m2 m3 m5

As part of that the ZF box has auto lockup in all forward gears so there is no torque converter slip once rolling..p.us it’s more reliable as no need to replace clutch packs etc...the getrag box was a product of a lack at that time of the 8hp box and it’s then max torque limits

Today all new M series as well as many astons / lambos etc use the 8hp
 
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