Should Trump be impeached...?

mr.tourette said:
Z4C_er said:
Flyingfifer said:
Hear hear

This is the kind of s**t that gets posted on Facebook, one of the reasons I dont use it anymore and frankly it grips my s**t.. why are you posting something you have found online and using it to try and prove you have some kind of overwhelming evidence that anyones opinion that different from your own has been brainwashed by the media, its about as stupid as rhetoric gets :thumbsdown:
Calm down. I was agreeing with Flyingfifer.
 
Obviously the MSM is very powerful in developing the views people have. However, we often forget the fact that you don’t need MSM to make sound factual judgments and form valid opinions. Trumps behaviour (his impression of the disabled journalist) and his words (his discussion with the guy on the bus regarding what he can do to women because of his powerful position) are just two factual examples of who he is and what he is. This are nothing to do with MSM pushing a particular view and MSM is not needed to decide if this is okay or not.

Most tellingly though, he cheats at golf as tells his caddies to put down lower scores! Read that on line!! :rofl:
 
How else do we formulate our opinions if we don’t read/listen to the press?

We all rely on second hand information whether we like it or not.
 
ronk said:
How else do we formulate our opinions if we don’t read/listen to the press?

Go to the source, the MSM cannot be trusted anymore, it is saturated by partisans that are activists before journalists and impartiality is a long forgotten tradition.

Typically use YouTube now, various creators on there seem to genuinely want to pursue the truth of matters and will tell you the story warts and all but even then they have their own bias and opinion so you need to make sure you have a good spread of sources that dont all just agree with each other. Its not easy but its worth it not to be spoon fed propaganda imo.
 
My old grand-dad told me to believe none of what I hear, none of what I read and only half of what I see.
Works for me.

But I guess, as you lot have to read this, you won't believe me. :rofl:
 
enuff_zed said:
My old grand-dad told me to believe none of what I hear, none of what I read and only half of what I see.
Works for me.

But I guess, as you lot have to read this, you won't believe me. :rofl:

I 100% agree with him, my dad and grandad taught me the same. Never ever believe what someone tells you, go and find out for yourself, best advice I've ever been given especially these days :thumbsup:
 
Flyingfifer said:
ronk said:
How else do we formulate our opinions if we don’t read/listen to the press?

Go to the source, the MSM cannot be trusted anymore, it is saturated by partisans that are activists before journalists and impartiality is a long forgotten tradition.

Typically use YouTube now, various creators on there seem to genuinely want to pursue the truth of matters and will tell you the story warts and all but even then they have their own bias and opinion so you need to make sure you have a good spread of sources that dont all just agree with each other. Its not easy but its worth it not to be spoon fed propaganda imo.

Go to the source...?? :rofl: I’ll go knock on Trumps door and have a chat......that’ll work. :thumbsup:
 
Read history, read the newspapers, listen to the radio then formulate your own opinions- but it remains that it is all based on other peoples opinions.

The source isn’t available to the masses I’m afraid - in perfect world maybe but not in our real world.

The nearest we can possibly get is a live TV interview - and Ive seen a few of Mr T‘s recently or have they been tampered with?

As we become more and more polarised in life, a balanced view becomes more and more difficult - a fact amply demonstrated by some of the discussions on this forum often populated by some very intolerant and vitriolic comments.

I spoke with some Officers from the Dutch army some time ago and one of them said that in his opinion “ the world is on fire”.
I find it difficult to disagree :thumbsdown:
 
john-e89 said:
Go to the source...?? :rofl: I’ll go knock on Trumps door and have a chat......that’ll work. :thumbsup:

Nice over exaggeration :roll:

Obviously I dont mean speaking to the man himself

Im talking about if you see a news segment saying something like "Trump claims Mexican migrants are being brought in by COYOTES" then a snipped segment of a press conference. Go look at the actual press conference, get the full context and you realise that he was talking about the actual Coyote gangs that are smuggling people. But that is either entirely absent from the article/segment or its a buried detail, this is in order to make him seem stupid or mental. Its lying by omission to push propaganda.
 
Not being American I couldn't give a sh*t about Trump. Don't get me started on Blair though! oops John has closed the thread.
 
:? Pretty much about an as out there....off the wall post as you’ll get..... :scratchhead:

Back on topic then.... :topicclosed:
 
Interesting insight on the day. You have to wonder... https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1348365375449268226.html
 
Tommo61 said:
Interesting insight on the day. You have to wonder... https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1348365375449268226.html

Interesting read although went pretty hard pretty fast into the "dEy AlL jUs RaCiSts" patter :thumbsdown:

One big take away for me was how the city wasnt burning to the ground after the "mostly peaceful" protest unlike those BLM/antifa "protests"
 
I think trump needs to go and he is clearly dangerous. I would impeach him, so that he can’t run again. However, I can’t believe anyone thinks that blithering idiot Biden, will do a better job. The US president needs to have a strong character and Bidens is anything but.

I also find the Biden situation similar to the Corbyn situation. It’s like watching coronation street, where a character reinvents themselves and everyone forgets what happened in the past.

Much as recent weeks have shown trump to be dangerous, is he as dangerous as previous presidents that invented issues such as weapons of mass destruction, to enable a war that still rubbles on today??

Here’s a question I’d like to ask an American..........
So “white” Americans are classed/called “American”. However, black Americans are described as “African” Americans. Which for some reason the African Americans are seem happy with. The “original” Americans are called indigenous americans/Indians

By this way of identifying someone, surely the white Americans should be called “European Americans”!? Surely some of the “African” Americans will have ancestry in the country as far back as some “European” Americans. As far I’m concerned, describing anyone non-white, based on where they’re ancestors are from is as racist as it gets.

I hear people of all ages, political sides and races, describing people in this way.

Imo this shows that the serious, deep rooted issues in America cross all political / racial and age ranges and not just Trump and his supporters, as the media would have you believe

The whole country is a basket case and no matter who is in charge, that isn’t gonna end any time soon
 
Nelson Mandela charged with acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists. He eventually became President of South Africa 1994-99.

Just sayin'
 
Similar closer to home with Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist as the saying goes.
 
Nanu said:
Similar closer to home with Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist as the saying goes.

I was saving that as a retort. Its funny that the US Democrat Party has historically supported Irish terrorism... Hypocrisy or what?
 
dans6490 said:
I think trump needs to go and he is clearly dangerous. I would impeach him, so that he can’t run again.

lol wut? How is he dangerous? The dude has been the least war mongering president in my lifetime :roll:


dans6490 said:
However, I can’t believe anyone thinks that blithering idiot Biden, will do a better job. The US president needs to have a strong character and Bidens is anything but.

100% agree here but tbh I believe its more of a "anyone but trump" situation, the MSM has pushed TDS onto the american population for 5 years and its created a whole bunch of people that would decry him for saving a drowing baby just because its trump


dans6490 said:
Here’s a question I’d like to ask an American..........
So “white” Americans are classed/called “American”. However, black Americans are described as “African” Americans. Which for some reason the African Americans are seem happy with. The “original” Americans are called indigenous americans/Indians

By this way of identifying someone, surely the white Americans should be called “European Americans”!? Surely some of the “African” Americans will have ancestry in the country as far back as some “European” Americans. As far I’m concerned, describing anyone non-white, based on where they’re ancestors are from is as racist as it gets.

Imo this shows that the serious, deep rooted issues in America cross all political / racial and age ranges and not just Trump and his supporters, as the media would have you believe

This is identitarianism at work, something the dems in the US have wholly adopted, also those communities self identify as such, Latino american as well for example. It literally is the politics of division and imo is a total cancer on society, unfortunately it has also spread to the UK.

Looks like the dems are pushing ahead with another attempt at impeachment... pathetic
 
exdos said:
Nanu said:
Similar closer to home with Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist as the saying goes.

I was saving that as a retort. Its funny that the US Democrat Party has historically supported Irish terrorism... Hypocrisy or what?
Apologies for stealing your thunder, great minds think alike ??
 
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