Should I Buy A Z4C?

mr wilks said:
Should also factor in that bought wisely the M versions should depreciate much less than standard if at all

Hmmm. Depends on miles per year. Putting 3k a year on a 30k miles MC - and depreciation will be minimal. Put 12k a year on the same car, and it'll drop in value pretty quick over a couple of years....
 
Adamski said:
mr wilks said:
Should also factor in that bought wisely the M versions should depreciate much less than standard if at all

Hmmm. Depends on miles per year. Putting 3k a year on a 30k miles MC - and depreciation will be minimal. Put 12k a year on the same car, and it'll drop in value pretty quick over a couple of years....

I'd agree with this, irrational as it may be, higher mileage 60k+ (which I appreciate is "below average" of 10-12k per year, but is higher mileage in the world of Z4M's) cars tend to be harder to shift.

A 40k, well specced, desirable Z4MC would fetch ~£17-17.5k at present, give it two years at 12k per year, a 64k car would probably be worth £14-14.5k, so depreciation of £3k.

A 40k, well specced, desirable 3.0SI Sport would fetch ~£12.5-13k at present (?), a 64k example maybe £10.5-11k(?), depreciation of £2k rather than £3k. (I've questioned my 3.0 prices as I don't have a huge interest in the market so am not entirely sure)
 
i did say "bought wisely" :wink: by that i don't mean at the higher end of the scale then hammering 30k on in 3 years as plainly that will hit you in the wallet hard
As Paza proved recently a decent Mc can be had for around £12k , keep that mileage under 90k & that car will still be worth the £12k ( possibly more ? ) providing condition & maintenance are kept up .
The older the M cars become then higher mileage becomes acceptable on a used 10/12 yr old car , yes mega low miles will always fetch a premium i know that but leggy E46 M3s in top fettle still sell with 120k on the clock for good money , they don't become worthless or unwanted & there are far more of those available
I stand by what i said , bought wisely over a 3 year period the low depreciation of the M would equate to the lower running costs of the 3.0si jmo of course :thumbsup:
 
Ed Doe said:
I'd not seen anything on rust in the tailgate area? Can anyone provide more information on this?

This is one example and to be honest I've not seen one as bad as this before.

Usually it's just a few bubbles like the 2nd thread

http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27364

http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42088
 
Welcome John.

I am one of the newer members of the forum, & was fortunate to purchase a Z4MC from one of the senior members of
of the forum.

I am absolutely blown away by the cars performance, condition, & provenance.

As you can seen there are a lot of informed chaps on the site with a wealth of knowledge, which I hope will help you make the right decision on what car to purchase.

If you are in a position to buy an M car, then my personal advice would be to buy it.

You will not regret it despite the costs :tumbleweed:

By the way, what part of 'Gods County' are you from?
 
Stephen thanks for sharing your costs running the M so far. Although I don't need any more goading to get an M already

However, your calculations are based on doing 6k a year. I do 20k, at which point the servicing costs become more significant, as well as the mpg. Ignoring that for a minute, the £80 additional cost per month for running the //M even just doing 6k a year represents just shy of another £1000 a year. I'd imagine this would comfortably stretch to nearer £1,500 factoring in the extra mileage. I also cannot help but be a little concerned with the resale value of an M with say 90k; even with FBMWSH they don't tend to sell very quickly, or at a particularly good price...

I do see your point in some respects though and as I say, I will have an M in the not too distant future (unless I end up plumbing for a Cayman S... cue uproar at the potentially ruinous costs of engine replacement in those!), but right now I don't think its a viable choice!

I shall therefore continue to enjoy the Si :P
 
Ed Doe said:
Stephen thanks for sharing your costs running the M so far. Although I don't need any more goading to get an M already

However, your calculations are based on doing 6k a year. I do 20k, at which point the servicing costs become more significant, as well as the mpg. Ignoring that for a minute, the £80 additional cost per month for running the //M even just doing 6k a year represents just shy of another £1000 a year. I'd imagine this would comfortably stretch to nearer £1,500 factoring in the extra mileage. I also cannot help but be a little concerned with the resale value of an M with say 90k; even with FBMWSH they don't tend to sell very quickly, or at a particularly good price...

I do see your point in some respects though and as I say, I will have an M in the not too distant future (unless I end up plumbing for a Cayman S... cue uproar at the potentially ruinous costs of engine replacement in those!), but right now I don't think its a viable choice!

I shall therefore continue to enjoy the Si :P


have you calculated what a high miles coupe Si will be worth if banging 20k a year on it?
 
halifaxbantam said:
I am one of the newer members of the forum, & was fortunate to purchase a Z4MC from one of the senior members of
of the forum.

I am absolutely blown away by the cars performance, condition, & provenance.

Cough Cough, lusting after a Coupe already? :poke:
 
Thanks again for all the insights - plenty of food for thought concerning mileage, daily use etc. I think I need to go and test drive an //M and an SE Coupe.

I'm based in South Yorkshire, by the way.

Give the (helpful) direction that this thread has taken I think it might be best if I started a new one on common problems and how to spot them before purchase.
 
Good idea John, but stay away from the SE Coupé, they are very difficult to sell, just not a desired spec level.

I doubt that the Si Sport coupé will be too uncomfortable for you, and that's the one to go for :thumbsup:
 
Not far... I'm on the other side of snake/ woodhead depending wha part of Sheffield your in.


3 miles outside Glossop.
 
Went through the same dilemma.
Drove various 996c4s circa 2004 for circa £27k+. All looked great, didn't feel special in side and drove 'averagely'.
Spent £18k on newer, lower mileage z4m coupe that drives like a witch and haven't stopped smiling - absolutely no regrets!
The bore scoring and Porcshe costs were not justifiable.
Good luck. 8)
 
DPG said:
halifaxbantam said:
I am one of the newer members of the forum, & was fortunate to purchase a Z4MC from one of the senior members of
of the forum.

I am absolutely blown away by the cars performance, condition, & provenance.

Cough Cough, lusting after a Coupe already? :poke:

Ahhhh sorry mate, still getting to grips with the abbreviations :cry:

Like the coupes mind, but loved up with the roadster :rofl:
 
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