Should I be worried?

JBZ4si

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 Wales
Looking at a couple of e86s, one with around 90k.

No evidence of the water pump/thermostat, expansion tank etc being done. Good history as in serviced when it should be.

Would this be a concern, asking all of the seasoned e85/86 owners. How many go pop/fail? or is it mainly scaremongering online?

Thanks all...
 
It wouldn't put me off buying the car, but I'd keep the cash aside for a replacement.

If you did it preemptively, or when/if they fail, is up to you...
 
Agreed. No evidence of it being done is a good bartering point. Even doing it yourself is going to cost £400 for pump, thermostat and coolant.
 
As TriggerFish said, wouldn't put me off but it's something to bear in mind that might need replacing at some point.

For one reference I bought the 3.0si on 129k in 2024 with no history for water pump change. It failed at 131k after the car had been on a trip to Scotland and back, then parked up for a week. Cost me £300 for parts, did it myself on the drive. (Pierberg pump & thermostat from Germany on ebay, delivered in 3 days from memory.)

Edit: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/277626060995 looks like its gone down by a tenner 😁 Plus coolant.
 
Just buy the best car and budget around £70+ pa for breakdown cover with recovery if it should go, as you’ll need to stop immediately.
 
The fact it hasn't been done is a good sign, because it suggests that it hasn't failed.

And if it hasn't failed then it is unlikely that the engine has overheated.
I like that thought process!

Also for OP, mine was original (as far as I can tell - BMW markings and no paperwork) at 140k. It only stopped working as I damaged it myself replacing something else.
 
As TriggerFish said, wouldn't put me off but it's something to bear in mind that might need replacing at some point.

For one reference I bought the 3.0si on 129k in 2024 with no history for water pump change. It failed at 131k after the car had been on a trip to Scotland and back, then parked up for a week. Cost me £300 for parts, did it myself on the drive. (Pierberg pump & thermostat from Germany on ebay, delivered in 3 days from memory.)

Edit: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/277626060995 looks like its gone down by a tenner 😁 Plus coolant.
ok, sounds like they are not made of butter then 🤣
appears to be a reasonable diy job too, always glad to save some pennies! Maybe it will go down another tenner next year 🤞
 
There doesn't seem to be any predictability to how long they last. The pump failed on my first E86 at 60K miles, but my second was still on the original when I sold it on 91K.

The pump on my E91 325i died at 135K , although that may not have been its' first. As enuff_zed suggested it can help with a haggle.
 
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