Service intervals

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NDL

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Hi, fairly new to this forum, but have been looking for a nice M for some time now. Came close a couple of times, but one area that keeps comming up is that of service history. Is it me missing something?
A couple of very nice cars that I have currently enquired about, when it comes to asking about the service history, although they all say Full Service History, there is no Inspection 2 service yet to be completed.On a 8/9 year old car, would you not expect the inspection 2 service to have been completed by now?
All to often what I am finding is that there are several oil services been completed, or in some cases, which is what I have come accross, is that there is a three and a half year gap between services. I appreciate some are low mileage, but surely, this is far to long to not have an oil change.
On one case, when I suggested that this was far to long between services, I received a reply back saying that I was a Clown!! Needless to say I didn't Persue this one any further!
Am I right in saying that it is 15k miles or 2 years, whichever is sooner?
Your views would be appreciated.
Thanks.
 
I think the inspection2 for the M cars involves the valve clearances being checked/adjusted,I think that would be linked to mileage & not time before it was carried out?
Regards
 
Any 8 year old car should have had an Insp 2, despite what low mileage it had covered.

Peoples use of FSH, when selling a car, is down to some interpretation!!!!!
 
People do things differently.

Personally I'll do an oil service yearly and inspection when the car tells me to.

I do a max of 3k miles a year so therefore I'd be having an inspection service every 6k miles (if I did it every 2 years).
 
Smartbear said:
I think the inspection2 for the M cars involves the valve clearances being checked/adjusted,I think that would be linked to mileage & not time before it was carried out?
Regards
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Don't be so sure. It states it in the manual but not on BMW's service options (What's involved in inspI/II according to the dealer site).

OP, if you search for "service intervals" within this section, there was quite an informative thread on it over the last couple of months. I thought I'd saved it, but alas not.
 
DPG said:
People do things differently.

Personally I'll do an oil service yearly and inspection when the car tells me to.

I do a max of 3k miles a year so therefore I'd be having an inspection service every 6k miles (if I did it every 2 years).
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I'm in the same camp as above. My car was 9 years old this year and had it's first Inspection 2. Around 2K earlier than the clock said but keeps my servicing at 2 years as it was due an oil service otherwise.

As long as it's had the oil/brake fluid changed every two years it meets the service schedule according to the book.
 
Denis O said:
Any 8 year old car should have had an Insp 2, despite what low mileage it had covered.

Peoples use of FSH, when selling a car, is down to some interpretation!!!!!
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My thoughts exactly. As I understand it, it's:-
Running in service
Oil service
Inspection 1
Oil service
Inspection 2

So, allowing the max of two years between each, then an 8 year old car should have had its inspection 2.
Am I reading this right?

If people have not had an oil change for three and a half years, then what else have they skimped on.
 
NDL said:
Denis O said:
Any 8 year old car should have had an Insp 2, despite what low mileage it had covered.

Peoples use of FSH, when selling a car, is down to some interpretation!!!!!
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My thoughts exactly. As I understand it, it's:-
Running in service
Oil service
Inspection 1
Oil service
Inspection 2

So, allowing the max of two years between each, then an 8 year old car should have had its inspection 2.
Am I reading this right?

If people have not had an oil change for three and a half years, then what else have they skimped on.
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The owner's manual states a minimum of an oil change (and brake fluid change) every 2 years, and the Inspections as the service indicator dictates (assuming you haven't reset it when you do the time-based oil services).

With my mileage, I'm doing an oil service every 3 months and an Inspection 2 every year (should be an Insp.1, but I might as well add the gearbox/diff oils and plugs whilst I'm there).
 
NDL said:
Denis O said:
Any 8 year old car should have had an Insp 2, despite what low mileage it had covered.

Peoples use of FSH, when selling a car, is down to some interpretation!!!!!
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My thoughts exactly. As I understand it, it's:-
Running in service
Oil service
Inspection 1
Oil service
Inspection 2

So, allowing the max of two years between each, then an 8 year old car should have had its inspection 2.
Am I reading this right?

If people have not had an oil change for three and a half years, then what else have they skimped on.
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No.

It's in the order you have stated but the services are done on mileage and not time (unless two years have passed, which is explained below) which the computer will calculate from how heavy your right foot is. Max 15k miles, but most people are unlikely to see more than 12k miles from it.

Now if the car is a low miler, two years will pass (max time between services) and sometimes way before the computer says it's time for a service. In this case you have what is called a low mileage oil service (page 5 of the service book). This is where the oil and filter are changed but the service computer isn't reset so as not to keep pushing back the next inspection service which is mileage based.

So you could see on car that has done low miles,

Running in - 1200 miles
Oil,
Oil,
Inspection one
Oil,
Oil,
Oil,
Inspection two
Oil,
Inspection one,

And so forth

Clear? I thought not :tumbleweed:
 
It's all very well pushing the inspections out on these low mileage cars, but the diff and gearbox oil isn't getting changed very regularly. Cars that haven't had an inspection 2 yet might be on original oils. Not really great is it!

I would like to see the 15k or two year oil, insp1, oil, insp 2, but everyone is different I guess.
 
At BMW diff and gearbox oil isn't changed as part of the standard schedule.

Not sure whether they will do it if you ask.
 
CornishRob said:
It's all very well pushing the inspections out on these low mileage cars, but the diff and gearbox oil isn't getting changed very regularly. Cars that haven't had an inspection 2 yet might be on original oils. Not really great is it!

I would like to see the 15k or two year oil, insp1, oil, insp 2, but everyone is different I guess.
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Are the diff and gearbox oils changed at the inspection service? Don't remember this being the case back when I had my e46 M3. Pretty sure BMW state those oils were life, but I could be wrong here.
 
I decided on a higher mileage car because it was the only one I could find that had the correct services at the correct intervals and by BMW, not that everyone is as ocd about that as me. I always find it harder to sell on with specialist cars if its not as recommended.
 
DPG said:
At BMW diff and gearbox oil isn't changed as part of the standard schedule.

Not sure whether they will do it if you ask.
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Both are part of an inspection 2, so BMW should be changing these.
 
Not just BMW M models that suffer from this, the Abarth is just as bad with especially dealers not having a clue about the real requirements versus the 2 years = expensive service irrespective of mileage rule.

I have had to "educate" my Abarth dealer as well on that one.
 
As well as undergoing a comprehensive inspection, the oil and oil filter in your BMW are replaced along with the all important microfilter. The spark plugs (petrol) or fuel filter (diesel) and engine air filter are also replaced to maintain performance and efficiency.
As part of this full service, BMW trained technicians will remove the used oil from your engine, replace the used oil filter with a new, Genuine BMW filter and then refill your BMW engine using only BMW approved oil. The used cabin microfilter(s) will also be replaced with Genuine BMW filter(s) helping to maintain a clean breathing environment inside your car. To ensure your engine remains at its optimum, the engine air filter and spark plugs (petrol) or fuel filter (diesel) will also be replaced with Genuine BMW parts. Your technician will also thoroughly inspect your BMW against a comprehensive list of electrical and fluid systems for safety and functionality. In addition, your BMW will be returned to you washed and vacuumed with an updated BMW service history.
Check lighting system.
Check instrument and indication field lighting, check heater blower.
Check Horn, headlight flasher and hazard warning lights.
Seat belts: check condition of belt strap, function of inertia reel mechanism, locking reel, and belt buckle.
Check battery: acid level, charge state
Heating / air conditioning microfilter(s) is replaced
Body checked for corrosion.
Diagnosis brief test.
Replace engine oil and oil filter.
Check coolant level.
Check windscreen washer and intensive cleaning systems: fluid levels.
Check Steering fluid reservoir: fluid level.
Replace spark plugs (if petrol).
Intake silencer: replace air filter element.
Check brake pad thickness
Check brake disc surfaces and thickness.
Check steering components: check for clearance, leaks, damage and wear.
Check under-body including all visible parts: check for damage, leaks and corrosion.
Check brake lines and connections: visually inspect for leaks, damage and correct position.
Check handbrake function.
Check tyres for inflation pressures, external condition, tread depth and tread pattern.
Replace main fuel filter (if diesel).
Exterior is washed
Interior is vacuumed
BMW Service history is updated
All Genuine BMW parts come with a BMW 2 year fitted parts warranty.


Am I missing it ? :?
 
The diesel filter was the giveaway :)

The M one was in a supplement manual.
 
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