Scotland,serious question
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It won't happen.
1) They'd have to go to the EU single currency
2) They would have to apply to NATO like every other country
3) Their armed forces would take too long to come into fruition
4) They would throw the UK Armed forces out of Scotland, destroying the local economies.
Eventually they would go bankrupt in around 5 years. Nice idea, won't happen.
1) They'd have to go to the EU single currency
2) They would have to apply to NATO like every other country
3) Their armed forces would take too long to come into fruition
4) They would throw the UK Armed forces out of Scotland, destroying the local economies.
Eventually they would go bankrupt in around 5 years. Nice idea, won't happen.
Salmond posed the question:
Why shouldn't Scotland keep the pound?
Then when challenged on how ridiculous he was being he cited:
A Scotsman founded the Bank of England, so Scotland should keep Sterling and England should find a new currency...
Twat
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Why shouldn't Scotland keep the pound?
Then when challenged on how ridiculous he was being he cited:
A Scotsman founded the Bank of England, so Scotland should keep Sterling and England should find a new currency...
Twat
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I'm hoping for a 'Yes' vote and that the Welsh also decide to jump on the bandwagon. I'm not expecting a 'Yes' vote though.
Adamski said:
Did he really say that ?? Feckin' hell. The man needs to suffer a seriously debilitating accident, soon.
if he is going to talk banks... The Bank of Scotland was founded not long after the Bank of England by the Scottish Parliament of the time, and look what has happened to that mess, taken over by an English bank in 2008... The Royal Bank of Scotland was origianlly set up to protect the compensation received by the Scottish as part of the Acts of Union that actually formed Great Britain... And that's not gone so well either.
And by the way, two Englishman designed and engineered the Forth Rail bridge, that beautifully lit monument that is used in many publicity shots to promote Scotland.
Self determination is one thing, cutting of Scotland's nose as if it were Salmonds own to spite an imagined English face is quite another. This isn't the 1600s, and all this debate provoked by the Fat Controller is at best juvenile and at worst utterly destructive.
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Putter Whore said:
kevinmarkwhite said:Then my english tax's won't go into subsidising these countries
I know this is only banter, and I am NOT having a go at you two.
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It is exactly these kind of comments that we hear alot from south of the border that will reinforce the ill educated mind to vote YES. and also shows the Ignorance of those saying them about how this Union works.
And Shambolic, Get off the fence and tell us what you really think
Im not really into politics, cos life feels no different to me than it did 5 years ago....
But i cant see the need to go independent
And growing up in wales, there isnt really much beef with the english, there may be banter and some very proud welshmen...but in todays soceity who really cares, its all about team GB etc
English ppl work in wales, welsh ppl work in scotland, socttish ppl work in england, we all pay tax regardless of where we work, it all goes to pay for those who dont/cant work (booo) and whatever is left we use to frighten the argentine parliament (yaaay)
We will see
But i cant see the need to go independent
And growing up in wales, there isnt really much beef with the english, there may be banter and some very proud welshmen...but in todays soceity who really cares, its all about team GB etc
English ppl work in wales, welsh ppl work in scotland, socttish ppl work in england, we all pay tax regardless of where we work, it all goes to pay for those who dont/cant work (booo) and whatever is left we use to frighten the argentine parliament (yaaay)
We will see
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Nosa said:Putter Whore said:
kevinmarkwhite said:Then my english tax's won't go into subsidising these countries
I know this is only banter, and I am NOT having a go at you two.
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It is exactly these kind of comments that we hear alot from south of the border that will reinforce the ill educated mind to vote YES. and also shows the Ignorance of those saying them about how this Union works.
And Shambolic, Get off the fence and tell us what you really think
Yes, its only banter, but think of it...if these countries want independance, then surely that should mean totally independant? You dont see France having a say in our Parliament (other than via the EU obviously!), or British taxes going to France (other than via the EU obviously!).
I'm far too ignorant to know or understand the in depth points of this, so that is my opinion. Look at Wales....they have free prescriptions on the NHS....England doesn't. Tiny example I know, but its already happening and seems they pick and chose what they want.
What are the benefits and disadvantages to both England and Scotland of staying or going? Perhaps they (that Salmond man) should put together a consice (honest) list to help people make their minds up. He might have done so, as I havent looked I dont know.
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Woots said:
We moved to Wales when I was 12 and I went through hell at school...the only English kid in the place...that went down well! I moved back to England asap!
And if Carlsberg did patrionism, then it would be based on Wales! (thats not a bad thing).
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pvr said:
Exactly.
At the moment we are still part of the union and therefore have scottish ministers in parliament. If the England decided that we could not have MP's in parliament then that would be taxation with out representation. Remember what happened last time you tried that.
Woots said:English ppl work in wales, welsh ppl work in scotland, socttish ppl work in england, we all pay tax regardless of where we work, it all goes to pay for those who dont/cant work (booo) and whatever is left we use to frighten the argentine parliament (yaaay)
We will see
Genius
But don't get me started on the Malvinas.That is a total waste of British taxes.
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Nosa said:
eh?
If Scotland went on its own, then they wouldn't pay taxes to England, so it wouldn't be a problem. Am I missing the point?
I've got a mate who keeps on posting up pro-independence links on Facebook - he's an intelligent chap (although he owns a TT...) and he genuinely thinks independence will work.
But not me.
TBH I'm fairly ignorant about the details of it all and it's something I plan on sorting out, but anything that's supported by that fat tw*t Salmond can't be a good thing.
But not me.
TBH I'm fairly ignorant about the details of it all and it's something I plan on sorting out, but anything that's supported by that fat tw*t Salmond can't be a good thing.
a11y said:I've got a mate who keeps on posting up pro-independence links on Facebook - he's an intelligent chap (although he owns a TT...) and he genuinely thinks independence will work. /quote]
The more i read up on this the more barmy it seems.Initially i couldn't see how our island could function as different states but it's no different to the borders of any of the European countries.Still think it would be a great shame though.
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kevinmarkwhite said:
Yes it appears you are.
You said you didn't like your taxes subsidising other countries. Your tax does not subsidise any other country in the UK. everyone in the UK who pays tax does so to central government. Have you thought that maybe the Scots Irish and welsh don't like paying tax to London to then watch them pay it out to some very undeserving causes and people.
If Scotland gains independence then we will then pay tax to Edinburgh, and not one penny of your tax pounds will go to Scotland which renders your point null and void. Scotland at the moment is an area of Great Britain, so saying you don't like your English pounds subsidising other countrys is a bit stupid, its like saying you dont want any of your tax being paid out to Kent, or to the North East.
Edit, Scotland also has free prescriptions, have you thought that maybe your local politicians arn't doing a good enough job for you, if we get them why can't you.
Tony Blair is to blame for all of this. Devolution opened a can of worms which it will be difficult to put a lid back on now. He should've told the Scots and Welsh to feck off when they were pushing for it.
I have selfish reasons for wanting Scotland to vote yes. I'm not sure if this is still true but there used to be a statistic that there would never have been a Labour government if it wasn't for the Scots and Welsh. If ever there was a reason to encourage independence that is it!!
I have selfish reasons for wanting Scotland to vote yes. I'm not sure if this is still true but there used to be a statistic that there would never have been a Labour government if it wasn't for the Scots and Welsh. If ever there was a reason to encourage independence that is it!!