Satnav; With or without?
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Simon 3.2M
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Gwest44 said:Definitely without - I have it in mine with the digital TV capability but would much rather have the clean lines on the dash.
Digital TV capability?
Anything of that nature dates and based on the fact the cars are already 12 years old and the intention on purchase is to retain them for a significant period I would always favour the none display option.
My 2006 coupe has nav so I may be biased, but I quite like it. The e85/86 interior is pretty dated anyway so the retro screen just adds to the effect.
I only use it occasionally and it does the job. I'd probably get annoyed with it if I was regularly relying on it though.
If I was buying a zed today i wouldn't mind either way if it had nav or not. Just find the right car with the options you do want.
I only use it occasionally and it does the job. I'd probably get annoyed with it if I was regularly relying on it though.
If I was buying a zed today i wouldn't mind either way if it had nav or not. Just find the right car with the options you do want.
I specifically went for a car without Nav. It spoils the dash and my phone(s) over the year have more than been enough for when I needed it. The rest of the time the full dash in not interrupted.
Back when these cars were designed the navs were an after thought to me. Never well integrated.
Back when these cars were designed the navs were an after thought to me. Never well integrated.
jampudding
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IAmOrion said:
Do you have a picture of that. I would quite like to put something more up to date in.
In other words the hybrid version which has an analogue / digital tuner rather than just analogueSimon 3.2M said:Gwest44 said:Definitely without - I have it in mine with the digital TV capability but would much rather have the clean lines on the dash.
Digital TV capability?
Anything of that nature dates and based on the fact the cars are already 12 years old and the intention on purchase is to retain them for a significant period I would always favour the none display option.
My "new" ZMR has had it's Nav updated with newer firmware, but I still don't think it's a make or break option. I've had the TomTom app on my iPhones for almost a decade now and personally trust it over any in car system. It's nice having the screen for multimedia, but it wasn't any option I was actively looking out for when looking at ZM's. Compared to the Nav in my dad's '04 E46 M3, the Z4's Nav is on a whole nother level.
Also I much prefer having Darth Vader telling me to turn to the darkside when I'm at roundabout!
Also I much prefer having Darth Vader telling me to turn to the darkside when I'm at roundabout!
I was kind of disappointed when I found "my" perfect Coupe and it didn't have the satnav. I really really wanted it, as I thought of it as a real luxury feature.
Now that I think of it, I couldn't have been more lucky. I didn't not convince myself, I actually save myself the trouble having to replace the tablet every 2-3 years with the new one (because I would certainly and almost immediately change it for a tablet).
Go do whatever your heart tells you to, though.
Now that I think of it, I couldn't have been more lucky. I didn't not convince myself, I actually save myself the trouble having to replace the tablet every 2-3 years with the new one (because I would certainly and almost immediately change it for a tablet).
Go do whatever your heart tells you to, though.
Also, the NAV system uses a DVD disc and drive for the map data. The one in my car seems to be on it's way out, as the buffer seems pretty weak. I don't like electronics that are dependant on a mechanical storage device. I would rather have a unit that stores things with flash memory (like an SD card or the chips of an SSD), as it's not going to skip or fail when you're on a poor section of road. Because the roads in and around Oxford are so bloody bad, my disc gets jogged and the GPS stops working all together. That's too distracting to have happen if you were dependent on it a journey, while driving.
As said earlier, the system really looks dated as the screen is so small, yet the edges are pretty large and the BMW UI leaves a lot to be desired. It just doesn't feel as intuitive as modern systems.
In the new year, I want to get the iPhone kit that can be wired into the system, as then I can at least have my phones TomTom commands then play through my Zeds speakers, when I have music playing. If I was able to find a way to run the image on my phones screen through to the BMW screen, I could at least help the LED screen on my iPhone X last longer, as OLED displays eventually start to burn/fade as they have more hours used on them.
As said earlier, the system really looks dated as the screen is so small, yet the edges are pretty large and the BMW UI leaves a lot to be desired. It just doesn't feel as intuitive as modern systems.
In the new year, I want to get the iPhone kit that can be wired into the system, as then I can at least have my phones TomTom commands then play through my Zeds speakers, when I have music playing. If I was able to find a way to run the image on my phones screen through to the BMW screen, I could at least help the LED screen on my iPhone X last longer, as OLED displays eventually start to burn/fade as they have more hours used on them.
My original coupe that I bought in 2007 did not have it. If it had come with it, I probably would have gladly accepted it - back then.
I recently went searching for a replacement, and NO nav was an absolute must - any car with nav was immediately rejected. It was antiquated when new and absolutely ancient now. The flip-over screen is an abomination in the middle of the dash - looks SO much better without it.
A prominent M-car reseller in the USA told me that non-nav Z4M's fetch $4k more than a similar nav-equipped car. That's a pretty drastic difference and tells you what the overall market (stateside at least) thinks of this turd.
I recently went searching for a replacement, and NO nav was an absolute must - any car with nav was immediately rejected. It was antiquated when new and absolutely ancient now. The flip-over screen is an abomination in the middle of the dash - looks SO much better without it.
A prominent M-car reseller in the USA told me that non-nav Z4M's fetch $4k more than a similar nav-equipped car. That's a pretty drastic difference and tells you what the overall market (stateside at least) thinks of this turd.
Pro, the screen
Con, can’t fit your own custom ICE
Had I realised I cannot change the CD (as it operates the satnav and OBC) then i would have opted for without satnav, it depends how important music is to you?
Con, can’t fit your own custom ICE
Had I realised I cannot change the CD (as it operates the satnav and OBC) then i would have opted for without satnav, it depends how important music is to you?
surely in the USA the simpkest thing to do would be uninstall the satnav and fit a blanking plate?KevinC said:
That would be a $50 fix and considerably less than the $4k drop? :wink:
Thunderous One said:
Erm... what!? Mine came with the 6 CD Changer and Sat Nav (6 speaker setup)...
I removed it all, fitted an oddment tray in place of the sat nav, and installed a Pioneer DAH230DAB Double Din stereo. Works perfect.
The only time there's a problem using "custom ice" as you wrote is if you have the 10 speaker setup as it has a separate amp etc - it can still be done, but it's a lot of work in comparison with the 6 speaker setup
Thunderous One said:
Slapping a $50 blanking plate would look horrendous, unless you recovered the entire dash to hide it - and that would be costly to do it right. But that is the solution I would chase if I'd settled on a nav-equipped car. Also then have to replace the head unit with the non-nav model, which is pretty easy to find on Ebay at reasonable prices.
no, the point I’m making is I have the satnav in my coupeIAmOrion said:
I cannot remove the business cd to put in my iPod Alpine, so I’m stuck with the business CD player and aux input
Had I known this I would have waited for a non satnav coupe as music is more important to me than a flip screen or satnav
surely putting in a dash from a written off Z4 would cost way less than the $4k differenceKevinC said:
Thunderous One said:
But you can...?? Unless you have the 10 speaker setup.... do you??
Just don't connect the screen.
I actually made my self an oddment tray using an old sat nav unit.... I've actually just bought one of these to see it it'll fit straight in or at least be easily modded to fit my Z4
-- £25 off eBay