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TitanTim

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https://www.evo.co.uk/hyundai/206546/hyundai-i30-n-and-i20-n-axed?fbclid=IwAR1NvzLyFC9rZteqGRvZNa-Tftq9OuFNX-8gA7zKlVSlha6MyWbVzSNAEe4

Depending on which side of the fence you sit but another nail in the coffin for the traditional hot hatch :cry:

Tim.
 
Sad indeed. :( Just so grateful to have been a driver during the petrol head years. :thumbsup:

Didn't realise Evo still either existed to be honest. Stopped my subscription a few years back. It was all down hill, after Harry sold up.
 
Yes Evo are still around. Used to love going to the newsagents back in the 80s to pick the latest mag up :)

And this is the future and what the replacement N cars will sound like :headbang:

https://youtube.com/shorts/KtgjXIxGbIs?si=2lySk7mdDga8PlRn

What can you say :cry:

Tim.
 
Feels like they don't want us to have any fun anymore :cry: I feel like I got into cars right at the tail end of the best years. Yet to buy a car for fun newer than 2007, and will probably continue for a while . I feel like it's mainly Japanese brands, especially Toyota, that are the ones still flying the flag for drivers cars with a manual gearbox and proper engine
 
TitanTim said:
https://www.evo.co.uk/hyundai/206546/hyundai-i30-n-and-i20-n-axed?fbclid=IwAR1NvzLyFC9rZteqGRvZNa-Tftq9OuFNX-8gA7zKlVSlha6MyWbVzSNAEe4

Depending on which side of the fence you sit but another nail in the coffin for the traditional hot hatch :cry:

Tim.
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Notice it says for 'Europe'. So many parts of the world will still get decent ICE cars and pollute as much as they like, but we are being forced more into EV shiteboxes because clueless politicians think it's a good idea? :x
 
Pondrew said:
TitanTim said:
https://www.evo.co.uk/hyundai/206546/hyundai-i30-n-and-i20-n-axed?fbclid=IwAR1NvzLyFC9rZteqGRvZNa-Tftq9OuFNX-8gA7zKlVSlha6MyWbVzSNAEe4

Depending on which side of the fence you sit but another nail in the coffin for the traditional hot hatch :cry:

Tim.
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Notice it says for 'Europe'. So many parts of the world will still get decent ICE cars and pollute as much as they like, but we are being forced more into EV shiteboxes because clueless politicians think it's a good idea? :x
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Just think it's a hidden agenda and another money making opportunity for Government to push and force electric cars on us.

Hopefully fuel will be available for years to come :)

Tim.
 
enuff_zed said:
Looks like the FWD fanatics are being left Hy'n'drai.
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Have you got a book you go to for reference....."a pun for every occasion"? :P
 
yeah but let's be honest, the traditional hot hatch has been dead years....

YES the Honda Civic Type R was on ECOTY this year, but when a hot hatch is £50k to buy new, is is not just missing the point (Simple decent chassis, big engine, cheap fun)?

I dunno, call me old and grumpy, but the Hot hatch died a long time ago - a casualty of the human necessity for 'more'; more power, more speed, better laptimes. The fun of spanking a relatively light, relatively soft NA hot hatch down the backroads has been drowned out in the marketing department demands for 'ring laptimes.

I miss my old Peugeot 306 GTi-6 :cry:
 
MikeyH said:
I must be on my own here, I’ve never been a fan of the shopping trolleys with big engine era.
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:o :? They are just so fast and fun, in the real world, for the money. :driving: The Fiat Coupe 20vt, was basically a hot hatch, with no hatch. I think it started as a Tipo in a dress. It could live with TVRs and embarrass E36 M3 Evo's. (When it was working) You have missed out Mike. :wink:
 
buzyg said:
MikeyH said:
I must be on my own here, I’ve never been a fan of the shopping trolleys with big engine era.
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:o :? They are just so fast and fun, in the real world, for the money. :driving: The Fiat Coupe 20vt, was basically a hot hatch, with no hatch. I think it started as a Tipo in a dress. It could live with TVRs and embarrass E36 M3 Evo's. You have missed out Mike. :wink:
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Don't forget the Clio Williams, 182 etc, Peugeot 106GTi, 205 GTi, 306 GTi-6s!! The French imo had he Hot hatch market absolutely nailed for such a large chunk of the 80s/90s/00s! Absolute HOOTs to drive, and actually sensible to run/practical as well. As I say, I still miss my old 306 GTi-6 :(
 
And in those days there were no speed cameras, so I was absolutely loving the 16V Golf GTI I had in 1990 (well, it was my wife's 8) ).

Also, there was also none of this woke stuff regarding driving.
 
Ed Doe said:
yeah but let's be honest, the traditional hot hatch has been dead years....

YES the Honda Civic Type R was on ECOTY this year, but when a hot hatch is £50k to buy new, is is not just missing the point (Simple decent chassis, big engine, cheap fun)?

I dunno, call me old and grumpy, but the Hot hatch died a long time ago - a casualty of the human necessity for 'more'; more power, more speed, better laptimes. The fun of spanking a relatively light, relatively soft NA hot hatch down the backroads has been drowned out in the marketing department demands for 'ring laptimes.

I miss my old Peugeot 306 GTi-6 :cry:
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I absolutely agree…except mine was a 306 XSi.
 
buzyg said:
And don't forget we still have the E86.
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Not really a hot hatch as such, though. Since BMW started meaning "Bloody Massive Weight" a good few years ago they were never in the running IMO.

1983 XR3i was my favourite! I had a Mk3 RS Turbo Escort aswell but the XR was more fun TBH. :)
 
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