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Should Europe call Putins bluff or ignore the problem?

I said a while back we should have sent Nato into Ukraine some months back at at time when it was all talk of sanctions.

I don't think Putin will back down simply down to Sanctions. Russia is still denying any involvement yet talked yesterday of its nuclear prowess and for the west to be beware.

If the West was to face Russia with force would they back down? They have before.

Tim.
 
I don't think the Ukraine issue is nearly as troublesome for the west (mostly sabre rattling) I don't think Putin would go much beyond eastern Ukraine.

The bigger issue for the west is from within, as our youth in the west have seemingly fallen in love with fanatical Islam. Of course we are now going to pay the piper for having thought we could let them come in and think that they would assimilate like every other group of immigrants before them. Being tolerant of an intolerant ideology almost never creates tolerance from the intolerant.
Just look at the fella that killed Foley. The killers father (a radical Islamist) was granted asylum by Britain in 1991. Asylum from what, I have no idea. Doesn't seem that much was happening in Egypt at that time. I guess Britain just wanted to be nice to this Islamist. And of course within months he joined al qaeda in London & was involved in the US African embassy bombing just 7 years later. As we have found out, The apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. It may sound politically incorrect, But countries have borders for a reason. We should be mindful of whom crosses them.
 
TitanTim said:
Should Europe call Putins bluff or ignore the problem?

I said a while back we should have sent Nato into Ukraine some months back at at time when it was all talk of sanctions.

I don't think Putin will back down simply down to Sanctions. Russia is still denying any involvement yet talked yesterday of its nuclear prowess and for the west to be beware.

If the West was to face Russia with force would they back down? They have before.

Tim.
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Nah Tim, those Russian troops in Ukraine are just there on holiday/leave! That's what Putin told us anyway. Besides, we in Scotland will have nothing to fear after September 18th as we will be a nuclear free zone! That's what Wee 'eck has told us anyway. FFS! :headbang: So, you English can take your nuclear weapons and bugger off!........until we get nuclear attacked and then, can you bring them back and save us please? ...pretty please?
 
US should just shut down the Russian Banks access to Mastercard and Visa better than any nuclear strike :rofl:
 
Buying the propaganda again tim? So where was all of this evidence the russians shot down that airliner everyone was so convinced of? Any evidence of anything? The west however are plainly funding, supporting and backing a coup gov that are killing civilians and screwing their country up.
 
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Buying the propaganda again tim? So where was all of this evidence the russians shot down that airliner everyone was so convinced of? Any evidence of anything? The west however are plainly funding, supporting and backing a coup gov that are killing civilians and screwing their country up.
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Europe beware before it's too late. There's little people know about Putin.

Tim.
 
Agreed with bigdog about the Islamic threat, scares the sh1t out of me. I worked for 2 years in in Libya some time ago, and while the locals are very friendly and polite there is an underlying manic devotion to Allah which overrides everything. That also goes for every other Muslim state I have visited.

Coupled with the fact that we have loads of Islamic fanatics already living here, no wonder the UK has raised the threat alert level.

Everyone, be very very alert and vigilant.
 
dr_john said:
Agreed with bigdog about the Islamic threat, scares the sh1t out of me. I worked for 2 years in in Libya some time ago, and while the locals are very friendly and polite there is an underlying manic devotion to Allah which overrides everything. That also goes for every other Muslim state I have visited.

Coupled with the fact that we have loads of Islamic fanatics already living here, no wonder the UK has raised the threat alert level.

Everyone, be very very alert and vigilant.
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Sounds like the US South full of friendly polite manically devoted Christians that believe the hatred and BS that their preachers tell them.....and they almost all have guns.....

Fundamentalism is not an exclusively Arab thing....
 
wegras said:
US should just shut down the Russian Banks access to Mastercard and Visa better than any nuclear strike :rofl:
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And Russia just has to cut off Gas supplies to the rest Europe in the coming months..... :o
 
wegras said:
US should just shut down the Russian Banks access to Mastercard and Visa better than any nuclear strike :rofl:
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The US shouldn't have to police the world. Let them work it out for themselves. People always expect the USA to get involved in their battles...

We already won our battle in 1776.
 
Don't forget 180k people have fled TO Russia, theres more
to the story than simple Red vs Blue, however it riles me that the US is avoiding their usual intervention ideas as russia has some economic(/space station) bargaining power.
 
MigsAngel said:
dr_john said:
Agreed with bigdog about the Islamic threat, scares the sh1t out of me. I worked for 2 years in in Libya some time ago, and while the locals are very friendly and polite there is an underlying manic devotion to Allah which overrides everything. That also goes for every other Muslim state I have visited.

Coupled with the fact that we have loads of Islamic fanatics already living here, no wonder the UK has raised the threat alert level.

Everyone, be very very alert and vigilant.
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Sounds like the US South full of friendly polite manically devoted Christians that believe the hatred and BS that their preachers tell them.....and they almost all have guns.....

Fundamentalism is not an exclusively Arab thing....
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With one big difference you have (purposely?) left out. And that is this. As irritating as a Christian fundamentalist can be. They tend not to very often be predisposed to blowing them selves up like Islamists Or putting a sword to your throat and demanding that you embrace the peacefulness of Islam. or die.
 
bigdog said:
MigsAngel said:
dr_john said:
Agreed with bigdog about the Islamic threat, scares the sh1t out of me. I worked for 2 years in in Libya some time ago, and while the locals are very friendly and polite there is an underlying manic devotion to Allah which overrides everything. That also goes for every other Muslim state I have visited.

Coupled with the fact that we have loads of Islamic fanatics already living here, no wonder the UK has raised the threat alert level.

Everyone, be very very alert and vigilant.
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Sounds like the US South full of friendly polite manically devoted Christians that believe the hatred and BS that their preachers tell them.....and they almost all have guns.....

Fundamentalism is not an exclusively Arab thing....
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With one big difference you have (purposely?) left out. And that is this. As irritating as a Christian fundamentalist can be. They tend not to very often be predisposed to blowing them selves up like Islamists Or putting a sword to your throat and demanding that you embrace the peacefulness of Islam. or die.
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But It wasn't that long ago that Christians were killing those that did not convert to their way of thinking and believing.....so perhaps in time the Islamic fundamentalist will catch up with the more sensible current Christian way of thinking....assuming the Christian nutters dont start killing in the name of God like in the old days....
 
MigsAngel. But it was a rather long time ago. The papal crusades had stopped by the mid 1300's and had started in the 1000's. Conversely, the first Muslim crusade started some 460 years BEFORE the Christian ones and the first Christian crusade was prompted by the Islamic conquest of Jeruselem in the early to mid 7th century. So both sides have a very checkered past. But Islam started mucking about conquering nations and imposing their religion long before the Christians.
 
MigsAngel said:
wegras said:
US should just shut down the Russian Banks access to Mastercard and Visa better than any nuclear strike :rofl:
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And Russia just has to cut off Gas supplies to the rest Europe in the coming months..... :o
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Now according to the pundits cutting of Gas and Oil WILL cause serious damage to their economy it funds Putin's expansion plans and a lot more

The banking comment was tongue in cheek :lol:
 
swanicyouth said:
wegras said:
US should just shut down the Russian Banks access to Mastercard and Visa better than any nuclear strike :rofl:
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The US shouldn't have to police the world. Let them work it out for themselves. People always expect the USA to get involved in their battles...

We already won our battle in 1776.
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Maybe so but you haven't been exactly slow in jumping in many times since WW2 always of your own volition
 
swanicyouth said:
wegras said:
US should just shut down the Russian Banks access to Mastercard and Visa better than any nuclear strike :rofl:
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The US shouldn't have to police the world. Let them work it out for themselves. People always expect the USA to get involved in their battles...

We already won our battle in 1776.
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your right ...

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