Rumour - Manual Transmission in the Supra

Flyingfifer said:
99% of the time I drive using the paddles rather than in full blown auto mode
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That’s where I think the newer box comes into its own. Unless really tramping on, it is pretty much in the right gear and even then it probably is I just found myself changing early to set it up for corners etc it may wel have done this itself and quicker than I could :thumbsup:
 
Argyll Andy said:
That’s where I think the newer box comes into its own. Unless really tramping on, it is pretty much in the right gear and even then it probably is I just found myself changing early to set it up for corners etc it may wel have done this itself and quicker than I could :thumbsup:
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Tbf the old box is just as capable of choosing the right gear, I just prefer to drive than be driven :rofl:
 
dr_john said:
I remember years back giving my old dad a hard time when he switched to auto, now I understand why he did it, at 70+ it's a welcome option.
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I had my first auto 35 years ago and it was a great car for the traffic jams that were an every day part of my life in South London in those days but I don't think I bought an auto deliberately it just came that way. There is no doubt that in those days there was a power loss over a manual gearbox.

My next few cars were manuals but in the last 15 years I have had half a dozen cars and they have all been large engined autos and I see no reason why anyone would want to drive a manual car unless they have concerns about the size of their manhood
 
Ian J said:
My next few cars were manuals but in the last 15 years I have had half a dozen cars and they have all been large engined autos and I see no reason why anyone would want to drive a manual car unless they have concerns about the size of their manhood
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For the enjoyment of driving the car and having that connection to the engine, having thrown a track prepped Elise S1 round a track if that had an auto it wouldnt have been half the fun the manual was.
 
Flyingfifer said:
Ian J said:
My next few cars were manuals but in the last 15 years I have had half a dozen cars and they have all been large engined autos and I see no reason why anyone would want to drive a manual car unless they have concerns about the size of their manhood
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For the enjoyment of driving the car and having that connection to the engine, having thrown a track prepped Elise S1 round a track if that had an auto it wouldnt have been half the fun the manual was.
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Then, when you accidentally put the gear from 5th or 6th into 3rd, the level of fun will be half further. :headbang: :headbang:
 
Flyingfifer said:
q96169we said:
Then, when you accidentally put the gear from 5th or 6th into 3rd, the level of fun will be half further. :headbang: :headbang:
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Ive managed to never ever do that thankfully!
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Some guy called Robert Mitchell did it to his GR Yaris. So, there is a possibility. :tumbleweed:
 
Flyingfifer said:
q96169we said:
Some guy called Robert Mitchell did it to his GR Yaris. So, there is a possibility. :tumbleweed:
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Sounds like he should stick to Jazz :P :rofl:
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Not sure how good he is or whether he is good at all. But I think he might be slightly better than sticking to Jazz. :rofl:
 
I’ve read all this “at one with the car” with a manual box in the car, but the current technology surely an auto does a much better job? Nevertheless I accept that some still enjoy making the decisions - but would the same also be applied to the electronics that keep us out of the ditches?

350 BHP Without the electronics would see a lot of driving gods into the ditch I suspect.

I’m sticking with all the help I can get - I did all the sideways driving years ago. :rofl:
 
Argyll Andy said:
B21 said:
People are vilified for suggesting that an auto is a viable option for ‘sporting’ motoring..

I’ve never yet known someone who has a ZF8HP box and decided that a manual is a better option.
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I’d always have chosen manual previously but in the correct modes for what I want to do my G29 is a delight to drive.

On our last forum run out I was using the paddles a lot more than before. Don’t know if that was the type of roads, me getting more used to the car, or the rate we were travelling at but from my point of view I don’t think having a manual would’ve made it any more enjoyable an experience or would’ve allowed me to cover the ground any quicker.

I think I was covering the ground at a reasonable pace in my auto as manual driving as [ref]idej_z4[/ref], could confirm as we spent most of the weekend in tandem :oops: :driving: :lol:

And yes that’s IN tandem not ON a bloody tandem :rofl:
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That wouldn't be a pretty sight! :crazydude:

I'd only end up having to do all the work as well...you blummin auto drivers wouldn't know what to do with a manually operated tandem bike. :poke: :rofl:
 
Ian J said:
My next few cars were manuals but in the last 15 years I have had half a dozen cars and they have all been large engined autos and I see no reason why anyone would want to drive a manual car unless they have concerns about the size of their manhood
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I've had over 30 cars since the late 70s and only 4 were Autos because they weren't generally available with a manual box.

So in my case it's just what I've nearly always had and still prefer.

Those were old torque convertor autos with 3 or 4 gears so pretty antique to be fair! I'm sure modern DCTs are far better but I just don't want one - in much the same way as I'd never want a car with white or black paint!
 
I remember an old pal having a Cortina with the Borg Warner 35 Gearbox - That was dreadful
Three speed, torque convertor - It could never decide if it wanted 2nd or 3rd gear.

You did say "far better" - i would say that's an understatement!
 
I struggle to truly love the DCT in the M4(the 370 is a manual though), so I'm really hoping that the Supra does get offered with a manual for sure. 8) :driving:

I just don't like the disconnected feeling that you get from a 2 pedal performance car, but I don't mind an auto in a comfortable/wafty type of car though.
 
In my very humble opinion, a manual adds something in an older car which in all other respects feels more raw and visceral than a modern equivalent. However, in modern cars that I've driven (I appreciate there will be exceptions) you feel so cosseted and removed from the mechanics of the car that a manual gearbox just feels like a dated inconvenience. It's such a different experience in say a 2005 car compared to a 2020 car.
 
Flyingfifer said:
Argyll Andy said:
idej_z4 said:
you blummin auto drivers wouldn't know what to do with a manually operated tandem
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Is that really coming from someone who’s just bought an e-bike :oops: :rofl:
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An e-bike.....
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That’s a lovely sentiment to pass on to Dan sine it’s him that’s bought the bloody e-bike :poke: but l also have to quickly add an unnecessary requirement since he’s perfectly happy with Mrs J :lol:
 
Was a hardcore manual guy before buying a c63.

I would have to drive both Supra's back to back before making a decision. I don't think that the auto box on my C63 detracts from the driving and it's a breeze driving a 500bhp+ auto in traffic rather than stomping on a heavy clutch pedal every 30 seconds.

I think I would be happy with either. I wouldn't want an e86 with an auto but something with silly power to me feels better having both hands on the wheel and clicking a paddle. I like short and quick gear changes rather than a manual with such long ratio's that you can 80mph in second.

If it was a daily and I was sat in traffic I would lean towards the auto box.
 
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