Rude Londoners??

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Haha this is hilarious ! You guys need to get the train when people are going home from work! you don't even need to hold on to anything as you are so crammed you can't fall over!!!! :rofl:

I think I'm polite and more of the older generation are (25+) compared to the younger ones.
Flimper don't dis Ealing!!!! I live their! :evil:

population of London is 7 million during the night and 13 million during the day!!!! :rofl:
 
I work in central, my building is at Embankment (just opposite the Wheel).

Still in the office now, here's the view:
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The attitude varies wherever you are, think of London as a city of small towns and tribes - everywhere you go has its own style and its own people. Add to that a vast population of tourists and a vast population of commuters - none of whom see 'London' as home. However, it's different in the suburbs and outskirts...

I grew up in a small town - everyone effectively had a vested interest in the place and the other people that lived there, small communities breed community spirit, a sense of belonging. London however is a city of strangers. Culturally, you don't engage with people on public transport because of the close proximity, it's very intimate on the tube/train at 7:30 when you're in someone's armpit - it's not the done thing to strike up a conversation. Subsequently it's a very private time. Earphones in, newspaper out.

The rise of social networking has certainly changed many people's attitudes - there are always events everywhere - but London remains a very lonely city if you don't know anyone. People tend to stay in their 'tribes' - whether post work drinks, or seeing the friends they know from university/school etc. It's tough to break into a 'new' group of people... ...how do you meet new friends?

Obviously London is very 'cosmopolitan' (hate that word), there are people of all races and nationalities all over the city - with that comes a huge range of cultural and behavioural approaches. If you're a staff member in a restaurant, you're going to have no 'regular' sense of expected behaviour - everyone, for better or worse, is different.

In my mind, it's not a 'rude' city per say - if you are with friends, know how things work, interact with people in a certain way, then it's a fantastic city.

But, if you are alone, being the tourist/visitor, crossing paths with commuters when they are in 'travel mode' isn't avoidable - we all have to be somewhere sometimes, and the commuter vs tourist tribal wars aren't fun to be a third party in.

If you're here, find somewhere off the beaten track, everywhere near big tourist spots is going to be like that - cheap surley employment, cheap poor quality food etc. If you had to work with tourists all day, wouldn't you be like that? Don't go to cruddy tourist places.


Forget the people; tourists and kids and commuters have other things on their mind and are the same in major cities - there aren't such things as LOCALS in London, don't expect to find them. The pub, unless you outside of central London, WON'T feel like your local pub in the vilage back home because noone knows each other. The barmaid is there working during her gap year from Australia, the drinkers are tourists or work colleagues drinking after work. It's not the same atmosphere so don't expect it.

Get away from the real tourist traps - most of the stuff in the guidebook is rubbish anyway.
Get into the parks, get along the river - find your OWN thing to do, you'll enjoy it far more.
Get into the suburbs though, and it's a different story altogether - far more to do, beautiful things to see, no tube, no annoying coach tours, no commuters, no drunk kids etc...


If anyone is in London and needs advice, let me know.

Some days I hate London, other days I love it.

Fighting the commuter/tourist crowds through Trafalgar square to get to a meeting is not fun.
Summer in the city on a river boat having a beer post-post work with colleagues/friends is awesome... 8)

:wink:
Si
 
Bing said:
As for not accepting Scotish money...Don't. Get. Me. Started... :roll:

As Michael McIntyre says, the phrase "I think you'll find that's legal tender, mate" said in your strongest Scottish accent was invented for such occasions! :rofl:
 
Psy said:
I work in central, my building is at Embankment (just opposite the Wheel).

Still in the office now, here's the view:
img2012031400010.jpg


The attitude varies wherever you are, think of London as a city of small towns and tribes - everywhere you go has its own style and its own people. Add to that a vast population of tourists and a vast population of commuters - none of whom see 'London' as home. However, it's different in the suburbs and outskirts...

I grew up in a small town - everyone effectively had a vested interest in the place and the other people that lived there, small communities breed community spirit, a sense of belonging. London however is a city of strangers. Culturally, you don't engage with people on public transport because of the close proximity, it's very intimate on the tube/train at 7:30 when you're in someone's armpit - it's not the done thing to strike up a conversation. Subsequently it's a very private time. Earphones in, newspaper out.

The rise of social networking has certainly changed many people's attitudes - there are always events everywhere - but London remains a very lonely city if you don't know anyone. People tend to stay in their 'tribes' - whether post work drinks, or seeing the friends they know from university/school etc. It's tough to break into a 'new' group of people... ...how do you meet new friends?

Obviously London is very 'cosmopolitan' (hate that word), there are people of all races and nationalities all over the city - with that comes a huge range of cultural and behavioural approaches. If you're a staff member in a restaurant, you're going to have no 'regular' sense of expected behaviour - everyone, for better or worse, is different.

In my mind, it's not a 'rude' city per say - if you are with friends, know how things work, interact with people in a certain way, then it's a fantastic city.

But, if you are alone, being the tourist/visitor, crossing paths with commuters when they are in 'travel mode' isn't avoidable - we all have to be somewhere sometimes, and the commuter vs tourist tribal wars aren't fun to be a third party in.

If you're here, find somewhere off the beaten track, everywhere near big tourist spots is going to be like that - cheap surley employment, cheap poor quality food etc. If you had to work with tourists all day, wouldn't you be like that? Don't go to cruddy tourist places.


Forget the people; tourists and kids and commuters have other things on their mind and are the same in major cities - there aren't such things as LOCALS in London, don't expect to find them. The pub, unless you outside of central London, WON'T feel like your local pub in the vilage back home because noone knows each other. The barmaid is there working during her gap year from Australia, the drinkers are tourists or work colleagues drinking after work. It's not the same atmosphere so don't expect it.

Get away from the real tourist traps - most of the stuff in the guidebook is rubbish anyway.
Get into the parks, get along the river - find your OWN thing to do, you'll enjoy it far more.
Get into the suburbs though, and it's a different story altogether - far more to do, beautiful things to see, no tube, no annoying coach tours, no commuters, no drunk kids etc...


If anyone is in London and needs advice, let me know.

Some days I hate London, other days I love it.

Fighting the commuter/tourist crowds through Trafalgar square to get to a meeting is not fun.
Summer in the city on a river boat having a beer post-post work with colleagues/friends is awesome... 8)

:wink:
Si

Actually, whilst I would never live there again, :thumbsup: to all of that. Very well said !
 
I appreciate that people trying to go about their daily business can be quite self absorbed but regardless of if they are feeling shite coz they are going to work or at work (especially in the service industry) it is no excuse for aggressive rudeness, I ahve been to many cities throughout the world and been in what you would call their "square mile" have shopped in their shops and eaten in their restraunts, and never been made to feel unwelcome.
(Well there was this one bar in Oporto, but thats another storey)
 
I last visited in the 90s, it was filthy. The Londoners I meet up here (the holiday cottage next door) are racists. They start conversations with 'Ya got no darkies round here guv,' and then launch into what a lucky chap I am to live here. Are they mad? It is no accident I live where I do. I fail to understand why they live somewhere that disappoints them so much.

EDIT - I am not a racist, it just reads like that... :oops:
 
The rudeness put us off from going back-been there a couple of times,both the same-i know its been said they are just going about their everyday business,but still-its too crowded-you get knocked out of the way,no apologies :thumbsdown: (i know there are nice Londoners on here and dont wish to offend them)-its just our experience of the capital.
 
years back i worked down there for a week or so, the tube was awful, nobody acknowledged anybody, it was be impossible to get a smile of anyone cos they didn't look you in the eye

london :thumbsdown:
 
I did see Lene Lovich downstairs at the Hope and Anchor.
An excellent evening, and the first time I saw someone with a mohican.
A top quality night out.
London was pretty neat back then.
 
flimper, LOL just joking!
HAHA It was the first club I ever went to and the last time I went to that club too... I don't think it's open anymore! I still need to check out LA Confidential next door though! :titshake:
 
Some good posts. Interesting view from Psy :thumbsup:

One of my old colleagues worked in the city and had lots of good stories about after work socialising - plenty of pubs around after all. Suppose it all depends on circumstances...

I quite enjoyed a weekend break in London..... but the pace of life up here is more enjoyable I reckon


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I agree, everyone seems to have their own little world down here. mainly on the train commutes I see, but probably just in zombie mode (I'm guilty of that a little bit...)

Everyday I walk down the pavement of a road in Chiswick where cars are allowed to park half on the pavement (Bollo Lane if anyone knows it)... which means that in places the pavement is reduced to being 'single track'... If you stop to let someone past coming the other way - it's extremely rare to get a thank you off the other person - p*sses me right off :(
 
Im afraid im with Peddy on this and have to speak up for London!

Ive lived in South London for nearly 13 years now and in both west and east sides. I have to say that after growing up in Suffolk London was the only real place for me to come to get the work I wanted and I spent my early and mid twenties visiting friends and eventually moving here.

Ironically the majority of what Ive read in this thread also all makes sense too as it's often very intense, slightly rude at times and too fast for a lot of peoples taste (my family included who seem to have the strange idea that I live in Oxford Circus!); mine included at times and usually when Ive spent a blissfully slow weekend back in Suffolk. But that said its my home and I love it. I dont venture into the tourist traps of the west end/camden etc unless Im working or I absolutely need too. The bars, restaraunts, exhibitions and events held in this great city can be fantastic and like most cities in the world, if you know where to go there are plenty of places to experience a more relaxed pace of life when required.

For every impolite person or dodgy postcodes there are plenty of great, genuine people and amazing boroughs of this fine capital. My advice to anybody visiting is take your time, dont try and match the pace of you dont want too and ask the London Z4F Massive for advance advice on some truly 'proper' places to go :thumbsup:
 
I'm also going to stick up for London. I don't live there but am there at least two days a week for work.

I love it, a truly global city :thumbsup:
 
Regular commuter, hate the tube with a passion, agree with much that's been said on both sides. Quite enjoy working and socialising there, but wouldn't want to live there - its great to come back north and breathe!
 
Haha... Its not Londoners that are rude, its the queens peasants outside the M25 that dont know how to interact with people :poke:

I grew up in london, but moved to the midlands for work... Everyone here thinks i tailgate, and drive aggressively... But in reality if you drive any other way in the city you'd get nowhere.

I do think me living up north (ok the midlands) has made me go soft.


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inkey$ said:
Im afraid im with Peddy on this and have to speak up for London!

Ive lived in South London for nearly 13 years now and in both west and east sides. I have to say that after growing up in Suffolk London was the only real place for me to come to get the work I wanted and I spent my early and mid twenties visiting friends and eventually moving here.

Ironically the majority of what Ive read in this thread also all makes sense too as it's often very intense, slightly rude at times and too fast for a lot of peoples taste (my family included who seem to have the strange idea that I live in Oxford Circus!); mine included at times and usually when Ive spent a blissfully slow weekend back in Suffolk. But that said its my home and I love it. I dont venture into the tourist traps of the west end/camden etc unless Im working or I absolutely need too. The bars, restaraunts, exhibitions and events held in this great city can be fantastic and like most cities in the world, if you know where to go there are plenty of places to experience a more relaxed pace of life when required.

For every impolite person or dodgy postcodes there are plenty of great, genuine people and amazing boroughs of this fine capital. My advice to anybody visiting is take your time, dont try and match the pace of you dont want too and ask the London Z4F Massive for advance advice on some truly 'proper' places to go :thumbsup:

Ah, but you are lucky enough to live in one of the finest parts of SE London Inkey$ - I drive through your neck of the woods every time I come into town and it is probably the only place in 'central' London that I would even consider living. Problem is that to live there I would have to win the lottery, and if that happened I'd emigrate to Malaysia with immediate effect :D

I get past the commuter thing by doing two things - driving in and parking at a friend's house near Canada Water at stupid-o-clock, and getting a bus rather than the tube. I get loads done in the office when it's quiet, and if I manage my time well enough I leave at about 3 to beat the traffic on the way home. And if I end up working a long day then chances are I have a day working from home to recover... It's not such a bad place, but you have to learn about where to go and not go, and get over the attitude of the transient visitors and ignorant numpties that you get in any large city. I don't think it's a place to bring up a family and prefer being able to leave at the end of the day, but there is nothing like standing on Blackfriars bridge on a summer evening and looking at the view up and down the river - still awesome after nearly 17 years :thumbsup:
 
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