roof gone

My roof went last night (3.0SE, 2004) :x . Had it less than a month. Having a nice bath, just about to hop into bed for an early night. Wife comes in, home from visiting her friends house, freezing cold because she's had the roof down all the way. Managed to get the roof back up by sort of rocking it backwards and forwards, which made an amusing squeaking noise from the suspension as if I was up to something else (which would be quite tricky in a two seater!!). Not good at half past midnight in a quiet street with everyone with their windows open :oops:

All the same symptoms as a load of other people. Main motor not making any noise, checked parcel shelf switch (fine), locking mechanism working fine. I have to say I found the red lever in the boot really tough to budge (I don't think it actually did). Had all my bodyweight on it and it wouldn't move. Roof had always worked fine up until now.

As an aside, has anyone posted on cleaning drains to prevent this from happening? Or its there anything you can do to ensure the motor is kept dry (bodge-wise)?

Bowser, you have an email from me if you are interested!

bowser134 said:
Hi,

Sorry I should have introduced as a new member, Ive been reading posts for a while but only just signed up.

Im a Bmw technician that works with a Senior Bmw technician in our own time, we are looking at setting up as an independant very soon.

To fit the roof motor is usually around £160 labour, but obviously we diagnose this correctly to make sure this is the fault first. Based in Camberley in Surrey.

Will be popping on the forums regulary to help people with there problems and offer advice.

(Oh by the way, Shipkillers website seems to be down, was going to read his how-to)
 
Hell Mr RX826... :oops:
Sorry to hear about the zed, you've been having some fun with it!

Hello everyone else, i've been on loitering on here a few weeks, since RX826 bought his!
(I have an E46 and leant him a load of cleaning stuff to make it look half way decent again...:D)

That does seem like a daft idea being down in that water trap, doesnt it?
Is the facelift one a different design?
 
AlanJ said:
bowser134 said:
Hi,

Sorry I should have introduced as a new member, Ive been reading posts for a while but only just signed up.

Im a Bmw technician that works with a Senior Bmw technician in our own time, we are looking at setting up as an independant very soon.

To fit the roof motor is usually around £160 labour, but obviously we diagnose this correctly to make sure this is the fault first. Based in Camberley in Surrey.

Will be popping on the forums regulary to help people with there problems and offer advice.

Think you might get some business with roof motor replacement...... :driving:

If you made yourselves a mobile repair unit - you'd earn a packet!
 
How about a roof repair meet???? Where experts and novice turn up and learn how to fix their roofs and convoy after?
 
Mm nope, I'm having work done in my house/garage and waiting until I'm able to use my garage to put my car in. Before I start.. Still would be good to do a roof meet though
 
hi there iv been lookin in this forum for sum tym as there are many fults wiv z4s . thak for al the advice given .iv had my for a year now iv had problems wiv my abs(i had the three lighs on ) and this week my roof went, great both tyms iv took my car to a.p.a.c in the walsall, west mids. although they ent bmw indipendents they seem to knw wot there doing and never had a problem with them, i got my motor my self and they changed it and unbloked the drain holes both sides for £140 beats doin it your self for that, if your trying to find a place that will take it on apart from dearler, id give apac a ring, 01922 455 795, let them knw i told you tho i myt get discount next tym lol cheer.
 
mr h said:
hi there iv been lookin in this forum for sum tym as there are many fults wiv z4s . thak for al the advice given .iv had my for a year now iv had problems wiv my abs(i had the three lighs on ) and this week my roof went, great both tyms iv took my car to a.p.a.c in the walsall, west mids. although they ent bmw indipendents they seem to knw wot there doing and never had a problem with them, i got my motor my self and they changed it and unbloked the drain holes both sides for £140 beats doin it your self for that, if your trying to find a place that will take it on apart from dearler, id give apac a ring, 01922 455 795, let them knw i told you tho i myt get discount next tym lol cheer.

think you have a problem with your keyboard also :poke:
 
Right gave the guy a call and it looks promising, he has done 2-3 before, knows the problem and knows how to fix it, said he will charge £140 for clearing drains, changing motor and casing (I provide) and will properly seal back together all in 1 day!! And it's local to me too!!

He is getting some prices on the motor from BMW first and will get it booked in and let you guys know how it went but all in for £450 to fix this problem instead of £1500 sounds great!
 
Leon_in_uk said:
Right gave the guy a call and it looks promising, he has done 2-3 before, knows the problem and knows how to fix it, said he will charge £140 for clearing drains, changing motor and casing (I provide) and will properly seal back together all in 1 day!! And it's local to me too!!

He is getting some prices on the motor from BMW first and will get it booked in and let you guys know how it went but all in for £450 to fix this problem instead of £1500 sounds great!

Just made me wonder if they do all that, whats to prevent it happening again? Is there a fix to protect the motor? What do the facelift Z4s have instead? You don't want to have to do this every few years really do you. Can you fit it with a shroud or is there a way you can easily clean the drain (from the pics it only looks accessible when the hood is removed)?

Anybody who has had this done shed some light?
 
The facelift motors have better enclosures, and I believe these are the only motor BMW sell now.

Bottom line is you need to check your drain holes even with the new motor style as there have been one or two failures on these also.
 
srhutch said:
The facelift motors have better enclosures, and I believe these are the only motor BMW sell now.

Bottom line is you need to check your drain holes even with the new motor style as there have been one or two failures on these also.

Thanks srhutch, useful to know. Was going to ask about cleaning the drains, but did a search first :D

To save the others here's a useful link http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7782&start=0

Unfortunately it looks like shipkillers website is down so the PDF isn't working. But looks like cleaning them would be a bit of closing the stable door affair now,

Tried my hood today and it worked! :D Went all the way down, then up again... and stayed there. :x Bugger.
 
to clean your drains dont bother taking off the wheel, or removing the whole trim..

its 4 screws on the mini trim bit. 3 on the inner and one below.

see my picture on this thread

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=72&t=871219&mid=165493&nmt=Z4%20Roof%20problems
 
koolchris99 said:
to clean your drains dont bother taking off the wheel, or removing the whole trim..

its 4 screws on the mini trim bit. 3 on the inner and one below.

see my picture on this thread

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=72&t=871219&mid=165493&nmt=Z4%20Roof%20problems


Thanks for the link koolchris99. I may be being a bit dim (very likely), but the drain isn't too clear to me on you pic. Any chance you can highlight it (I've twisted my head round all sorts of ways to work out which way is up! :D ). I got the panel off the other day, but couldn't spot the drain.

As an aside I went to pick up my cruise control stalk from Arden BMW Maidstone (which I fitted before I left their car park). As I was there I asked the parts guy how much for a new roof motor. After some clicking and me pointing out what it looked like he came back with a quote of £900. Not to fit, just for the motor. I said I think you may have clicked on the wrong bit there matey, but left him to it :P .
 
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