Roof gone skew-whiff

I've been lurking here for a while - have got an immaculate 2010 3.0 auto in white with the red leather upholstery. I absolutely love the car - spent a long time tracking it down, as it had to be 3.0, had to be white, low miles, 296 wheels, have red leather, sat nav, through loading hatch etc. Had to travel about 200 miles to get this one but it was worth it in the end - I've owned it for about two years now.

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The car has behaved itself perfectly and it's perhaps typical that the first issue I've had was caused entirely by me. In a hurry to stick something in the boot and get somewhere, I left my boxed tyre inflator in the bit of the boot where you shouldn't leave anything. Opening the roof a couple of minutes later I was aghast to hear a big graunch and then everything stopped - the tyre inflator had got caught up in the hydraulics on one side and jammed them, leaving the roof half way open and the roof panels looking very skew-whiff, as per the pics.

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I think the neighbours might have learned some new swear words around this time.

Does anyone have any good ideas on how to deal with this? I can't drive the car to a dealer with the roof like this, of course, but if I can recover things so that the roof is fully open (or closed), I could then get it to a dealer or somewhere able to fix it properly. Trying to close it using the button does nothing - the roof's sensors have presumably detected that something is amiss. As far as I can see, there's no paintwork damage and I'm keen to keep it that way - I've done enough damage already.

Needless to say, you should always check that there's nothing in those parts of the boot before you close the lid, and I'd been so good at that for the last two years...

Freddie
 
Oh dear oh dear...I think thats going to very expensive and difficult..

That roof is fiendishly complex..my best advice is to find a class 1 guru and get the car transported there..

Your only other option is to try and strip it in bits in situ..

God only knows what the sensors make of it and how damaged the rams/hinges/brackets are..

A very painful and saluttory lesson...pity the sensors didnt spot it..

I did something much simpler when I tried to close the roof with the car hard up against the rear wall and it only scracthed the paint..
 
Here you go

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e89-z4-sdrive30i-roa/repair-manuals/54-slide-tilt-sunroof-soft-top/54-37-folding-roof/

Happy reading!
 
You need to prop up the boot panel to stop it dropping on the roof panels.
Wait an hour for the pressure to drop in the system and with two of you could gently ease the roof panels up to remove the blockage.
 
Thanks - have now propped up the boot and am looking at the manuals. Will enlist a long-suffering neighbour tomorrow and see if we can ease the roof panels up as suggested.
 
you could try loosening the hydraulic pipes from the motor, that should allow you to move the panels by hand. to close it all up.
 
Sorry to hear this mate. Easy mistake to make as well. I do confess to always being a bit scared when I open and close the roof on this car. It seems so fiendishly complex...

Mate, with it as de la f****d as that, will it make any difference if you just take the roof to bits and just take it to the dealer?
 
Personally I wouldn’t take that anywhere near the dealers, if, and it’s a big if, they have someone who can deal with that you may as well sell the car to pay the invoice.

I’d have a chat with Dietcokeman, Mike, on here, he doesn’t seem to post much but I’m assuming he’s still here, you could ask Pastry if not as he knows Mike well. He knows these roofs and sensors very well, he may well be able to give a lot of advice on how to fix it without the cost of the dealers.
 
Looking at the shape that's in there must be something bent quite far out of shape.
I would be surprised after pressure is released from the hydraulics that the roof parts will go back where they should.
I would start looking for a breaker with an undamaged roof frame.
 
maxman said:
There is a chap on Facebook breaking a white e89.He is up in Falkirk.
He posted on here a while ago about breaking the car and lots of people asked about different bits but he doesn't seem to have been back on here since.
 
Nictrix said:
maxman said:
There is a chap on Facebook breaking a white e89.He is up in Falkirk.
He posted on here a while ago about breaking the car and lots of people asked about different bits but he doesn't seem to have been back on here since.
I contacted him on Facebook and he got back to me pretty quick.
 
Nictrix said:
maxman said:
There is a chap on Facebook breaking a white e89.He is up in Falkirk.
He posted on here a while ago about breaking the car and lots of people asked about different bits but he doesn't seem to have been back on here since.

The car was on Ebay until recently and its no longer listed, hope there is an easy solution and you don't have to go down the route of stripping the roof.

If you do need a replacement roof then have a look at Partshark there's a white 23i listed (with pictures): http://www.partshark.co.uk/used-car-parts-breaking-vehicles/bmw/z%2Bseries/e89%2Blci/. You could also try Hills, I recently bought a set of sports seats from a white E89 from them, and they were really easy to do business with and got delivery thrown in: https://parts.hills-motors.co.uk There's a complete white roof on Ebay also: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-E89-sDrive-20i-2012-RHD-CABRIO-CONVERTIBLE-HARD-TOP-ROOF-SCREEN-WHITE/253659875794?fits=Car+Make%3ABMW%7CPlat_Gen%3AE89&hash=item3b0f4e89d2:g:1RUAAOSwie5XTIbi
 
Yikes ! I feel for your misfourtune :cry:

Not realy taken much notice of the warning stickers, i certainly will now :o
 
OP, hope you get this sorted !!! I have to admit it is always squeaky bum time every occasion I open and close the roof on my E89, perhaps I should have had a coupe instead.
 
Finally managed to have a go at the roof this afternoon with the help of my long-suffering neighbour. We did as Flybobbie suggested and eased the roof panels up, propping it up with a length of timber placed between the boot floor and the underside of the cockpit roof. With the roof roughly level, I tentatively pressed the roof close button and the hydraulics whirred into action. Halted the operation after a moment so that we could remove the tyre inflator which had caused the jam, and then checked that everything on the roof gubbins was in roughly the right position, which it was.

So we carried on closing the roof and to my surprise it closed perfectly. Tried it again all the way down and back up again and it works fine! Have to say that I'm completely astonished by this - I was expecting to have to trailer the car away to somewhere very expensive to get it fixed, but it seems to be absolutely perfect - we can't see anything out of line or not as it should be. As a precaution, for the next week I'll only be dropping the roof when the car's at home or somewhere else convenient to leave it should the operation fail, but at the moment the omens look good.

Thanks to all for the suggestions and sympathy - it was very helpful. I'm now going to the pub and I may be gone some time!

Freddie
 
enuff_zed said:
So, to quote Monty Python and the Holy Grail.... "You lucky, lucky bastard"!

:rofl: :rofl:

What a result!
Enjoy that pint (or 2) :thumbsup:
 
Over the moon for you on this.... after reading people’s responses to your dilemma ,I feared the worst for you . Great result :thumbsup:
I think the monty python quote covers everything....
:thumbsup:
 
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