ROADSTER SIDE COVER COPIES

Ladderman

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 County Durham
You may already know I have created a post about making my Z4 roadster lighter & making my own carbon fibre parts.

I mentioned that I might make copies of my Side Covers in CF. This seems to have shown a lot interest, we all know how hard it is to get your hands on a good set.

I have decided to create a separate post specifically dealing with my attempt at replicating the covers as close as possible to the genuine item.

I was lucky enough to a buy a set from another forum member earlier this year. I love the way they finish off the look of the car & I totally understand why they are so popular.

Last night I started looking that the covers in a lot more detail, studying their design & construction materials.

The cover, (minus the vinyl layer) is 3mm thick & made from ABS ( Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene). It’s widely used in the production of injection moulded parts.

The advantages are, impact resistance, toughness & a certain amount of flexibility.

The flexibility aspect caught my eye because when I fit them to my Z4 I sometime have to slightly flex them to get them in place correctly. I don’t know if that’s just me fitting them wrong?

There is a domed piece that is the interface between the two parts of the locking lug. This is made separately from a hard plastic then bonded to the cover.

The locking lug is made up of two parts, again these are a hard plastic, but not as hard as the dome interface. I believe they are designed to come apart to avoid damaging the covers if you forget to remove them before closing the soft top.

Lastly the fabric layer on the cover looks the same as what on the dashboard. I’m assuming it’s a printed vinyl effect & looks like its glued on.

My plan is to try two different materials to make the main cover body. The first will involve using 3mm thick ABS sheet. I will have to make a vacuum former table & a heating station. This will allow me to vacuum form copies from a plug.

The second option is to make Fibreglass copies from a mould. It is the easier option, but it depends on how the parts performs when finished.

The dome interface & lug components will be cast in either Polyurethane or Epoxy resin.

The vinyl fabric can be sourced from a number of different web-based companies.

If I can produce copies that are to a high standard & close to the original cover then I will make sets for members on request.

Obviously at this moment in time I don’t have an idea how much it will cost to produce them & what they will sell for.

If anyone is interested in buying copies, or have any views regarding this please feel to post your thoughts.

Here is a few photos of the individual components.
 

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I would be interested in a pair dependent on the price, the cheaper the better; say a maximum of £80 or so :thumbsup:
 
patriot66 said:
I would be interested in a pair dependent on the price, the cheaper the better; say a maximum of £80 or so :thumbsup:
err I think they’ll be a bit more than £80. :o I don’t want to under value the genuine item. :roll:

Somewhere in the middle hopefully.
 
rdm05z4 said:
Count me in too if ship to the US.
I’ve shipped stuff all over the world on EBay. So if I can master the manufacturing. Shipping them to you wouldn’t be a problem.👍
 
I've previously posted about my efforts to produce a part of similar quality to the original including by printing, but gave up. Eventual price and complications with the catch which needs to be compliant were the barriers. I wish you well and hope you do better than I did :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for all the interest. I’ll definitely give it my best shot.

Just a quick update. I’ve spoken the a North East plastics company that stocks ABS in a verity of different thickness. So lv’e payed for a large sheet of 3mm & will be collecting tomorrow.

Over the weekend I’ll make plugs from the original covers & start making a vacuum forming table out of MDF.

To soften the ABS to the correct moulding temperature I’ll have to buy a patio heater, then encase it. The main structure could be MDF & internally lined with foil.

It’s going to be a busy weekend cos I also want start making my first Carbon Fibre part.

I’ll be posting loads of photos of the work in progress over the weekend.
 
steveanders0n said:
Excellent, I work in IT so I can help on that side, or you happy to donate £10 if that helps to get you started
thats very kind & generous of you.

The area I am struggling with is learning how to use Fusion360. I woke up at 3am this morning, so got up and had a feeble attempt at trying to copy the design in to CAD. Three hours later I gave up :x

So if there is any advice on CAD, that would be much appreciated. I also intend buying a 3D printer to replicate small parts such as the fastener lugs, again any advice or recommendations on a good printer under £500. I also what to make plastic clips that I can bond to the Carbon Fibre parts. Initially I will cast these item in Epoxy or Polyurethane resin but in the long term I want to 3D print them.
 
I've heard you can 3D print with a partial material content of carbon fibre in... so this may be a way forward to ensure part is strong enough? No idea on any specifics... but sure if it's something you're thinking of buying/investing money into then defo something to research :)
 
beanie said:
Just in case you weren’t aware, there is a company producing side covers already. Granted, not in CF but worth bearing in mind the competition. :)

https://skyermotorsport.com/products/bmw-z4-e85-roadster-top-side-covers
It's good to check out the competition and price -points :thumbsup:

When I was researching the competition I found that these have an 'unsophisticated' finish and are not covered in dash/interior materials like the original. They also feature a solid metal catch system, the original was deliberately done in plastic to allow it to deform without damaging the cover, catch or frame if an owner put up the roof with side covers fitted, so they just pop off. Skyler claim their metal catches don't cause a problem.
 
I remember something similar regarding the quality but going on the current pictures they look fine in satin.

FWIW, I think that trimming them in something that matches the roof fabric could work quite well.
 
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