Road rage incident has left me questioning zed ownership... :/

Had that in Den Haag couple of times, I know my life is not like yours but my answer was "pull over c**t" and they usually be gone. One was a bit more like he wants a go but no, soon as I pull over he"s off doing the large gobby crap and away. I know You live there and I also did for a while but they do have some seriously extreme gobshites over there, mostly from the like of what you describe. Not like there"s a lack of them here, sadly
 
Sounds like you typical plastic gangsta, the real ones dont start waving guns about, not even in Manchester/Salford! Not sure why your questioning your zed ownership though. Surely this incident would have gone pretty much the same way regardless of what you were driving. In fact driving something like a Citreon C3 might have made him worse, as in his head he's been "boxed in by a sh1tty C3!"
Sounds like the stress of reporting it and any ensuing process isn't worth the minor slap this guy would get at best. At the end of the day it will be your word against his etc. One question, do they read your address out in court over there? They dont over here as a witness.
 
Still in lane 2 I pull up along side the merc to be met with a torrent of abuse for not getting out of his way. I respond by asking him why he's 'racing towards a f*cking red light?' to which he responded by launching into a full-on and very intimidating tirade of name calling and threats. He's obviously a tad irritated at being held up by dozy drivers and red lights and I really ought to have known better perhaps.
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Engaging with him was the only mistake. These 'people' thrive on conflict, they love it. He clearly believed you and your learner driver 'mate' were deliberately doing a rolling roadblock on him, and nothing will convince him otherwise. Thus, in his mind he is the victim in this and you deserved everything you got (again, his world view, not mine).
As to whether you should report a weapon that you thought was a gun (but are you 100% sure), that's more tricky because as you say, you could get caught up in something that gets bigger than you want, but if you don't, who knows what he'll do to the next driver who gets on the wrong side of him....
Shame you didn't get the licence plate - you could report him to the police anonymously and say you're sure he had drugs in the car (and not the kind that Dutch Police probably smoke themselves). Judging by your description of him, and his car, he probably is a drug dealer and they might get lucky by stopping/searching him :lol:
 
Gaah, 3am and sure enough ima havin a restless night. :x
Resorting to a piriton tablet and a cuppa and catching up on this thread. :wink:
Thanks for all suggestions etc. And yep, with the benefit of hindsight theres lots of choices that i perhaps should/shouldnt have made in this situation!

However, i dont think i'm going to report it. It may well prove to be a disbenfit if he learns my address somehow and comes looking for revenge.
Id prefer to try and just rise above it and move on tbh.
As to the reasoning why this happened in the first place i'm putting it down to the fact that dutchies seem to have an inbuilt mentality of wanting to get ahead of you for any reason...and even it seems if you end up meeting them at the next set of red lights! Bonkers.
I've experienced it multiple times and the motorways are worst with people overtaking, pulling in front just to slow down again! You end up leapfrogging because if you try to maintain a constant speed as i do then you end up appearing to them as though ur playing the same game. Maddening. :x

The zed seems to pre-empt or solicit those situations more than any other car ive driven in holland. Hence, questioning ownership.
But those of you whove suggested are right; why should i let their jealousy/resentment/pointless competitiveness determine my own outlook on my car?
 
ranski said:
ben g said:
Why would you not report it? Next time the old Dutch granny that pisses him off may not be so lucky.
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I think the police force have enough on their plate, than finding some chump who's been waving an airsoft gun around.
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That kind of attitude is the reason why so many of these idiots are able to carry on with their abusive ways.
 
Always best to ignore people on the road these days, get a dash cam and if anything should happen send it to the police :)

I think anything with guns whether real or fake would be treated very seriously especially in the current climate. Personally I would report it.

Tim.
 
Chris_D said:
Gaah, 3am and sure enough ima havin a restless night. :x
Resorting to a piriton tablet and a cuppa and catching up on this thread. :wink:
Thanks for all suggestions etc. And yep, with the benefit of hindsight theres lots of choices that i perhaps should/shouldnt have made in this situation!

However, i dont think i'm going to report it. It may well prove to be a disbenfit if he learns my address somehow and comes looking for revenge.
Id prefer to try and just rise above it and move on tbh.
As to the reasoning why this happened in the first place i'm putting it down to the fact that dutchies seem to have an inbuilt mentality of wanting to get ahead of you for any reason...and even it seems if you end up meeting them at the next set of red lights! Bonkers.
I've experienced it multiple times and the motorways are worst with people overtaking, pulling in front just to slow down again! You end up leapfrogging because if you try to maintain a constant speed as i do then you end up appearing to them as though ur playing the same game. Maddening. :x

The zed seems to pre-empt or solicit those situations more than any other car ive driven in holland. Hence, questioning ownership.
But those of you whove suggested are right; why should i let their jealousy/resentment/pointless competitiveness determine my own outlook on my car?
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Good on you Chris, dont let the b@stards beat you down!
I haven't experienced anyone on the road treating me differently since I got the zed, but I have noticed this in the past. When I look out the window at the zed I see a circa £5k nice car. But one of my neighbours, says nothing but hello when I've had a variety of £50-60k+ (on demo) through work outside the house, 2 seater vert and its "oh that's nice, can you leave that on my drive!" Does make me chuckle when its probably worth less than his Focus, folks perceptions of cars can be very strange!
 
Not that this should have happened in the first place but do you have a UK plate on your car and maybe that is what upset the other driver?
Other thing is you should be embarrassed that the learner driver pulled away and gapped you from the lights :lol:

Mack, something you said about being a witness and your address not being read out in court, has this changed over the years as I was a witness in court years ago and the first questions I was asked was to confirm my name and address.

From that day I swore I would never be a witness for anything again, not worth the possible hassle.
 
MACK said:
Good on you Chris, dont let the b@stards beat you down!
I haven't experienced anyone on the road treating me differently since I got the zed, but I have noticed this in the past. When I look out the window at the zed I see a circa £5k nice car. But one of my neighbours, says nothing but hello when I've had a variety of £50-60k+ (on demo) through work outside the house, 2 seater vert and its "oh that's nice, can you leave that on my drive!" Does make me chuckle when its probably worth less than his Focus, folks perceptions of cars can be very strange!
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Since owning my 14 yr old e85 I've experienced this myself.
My neighbour (who I chat with occasionally on a Sunday morning) saw my car and came over saying how great it was and how he'd like one but would never be able run to a sports car like that. Same reaction from my other half's best friend. I asked them both to guess what it cost, they both said £10K+ the bemused look when I said less than half that was priceless. :D

As for the problems in the first post, forget about it as best you can and move on, in a few days it will be history. Just some angry sod out to spoil your day, odds are you'll never see the car again. I doubt very much your specific car was the trigger, more a case of wrong time wrong place.
 
LordOxygen said:
MACK said:
Good on you Chris, dont let the b@stards beat you down!
I haven't experienced anyone on the road treating me differently since I got the zed, but I have noticed this in the past. When I look out the window at the zed I see a circa £5k nice car. But one of my neighbours, says nothing but hello when I've had a variety of £50-60k+ (on demo) through work outside the house, 2 seater vert and its "oh that's nice, can you leave that on my drive!" Does make me chuckle when its probably worth less than his Focus, folks perceptions of cars can be very strange!
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Since owning my 14 yr old e85 I've experienced this myself.
My neighbour (who I chat with occasionally on a Sunday morning) saw my car and came over saying how great it was and how he'd like one but would never be able run to a sports car like that. Same reaction from my other half's best friend. I asked them both to guess what it cost, they both said £10K+ the bemused look when I said less than half that was priceless. :D

As for the problems in the first post, forget about it as best you can and move on, in a few days it will be history. Just some angry sod out to spoil your day, odds are you'll never see the car again. I doubt very much your specific car was the trigger, more a case of wrong time wrong place.
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Just to pick up on other peoples perception of our Zeds - I've lost count of the number of times people have stopped to chat about mine when I'm out washing/polishing it in front of the house, or when we are at a petrol station or parking up - not to mention the head turning when we are out and about.
We have a couple of friends we meet up with 2 or 3 times a year, he knows nowt about cars but noticed mine - he knows I bought it in summer of 2015 and asked how much I paid for it. So I asked him to guess. He said 35k :lol: I told him that's about what it cost brand new 9 years ago :D
 
I wouldn't report it. Doubtful you will ever come across this DH again. Far less hassle to let it go. You have no hard evidence. You will just be extending the incident. It's the selfish, but sensible thing to do IMHO.
 
yeah. i'm over it already. had a sh*t nights sleep but took the day off to re-bond (see the 'what have you done to your car today?' thread for details :) )

Difficult to totally dismiss the 'what-could-have-been' scenario however. If it was a real gun and I'd decided to confront him etc. - something I probably would have done when I was a bit younger and stupider perhaps.

At the end of the day; life's too short, I still like my zed and neanderthal as a species, still exists! That's how I'm concluding the whole thing :lol: :wink:
 
STUBOY2UK said:
Most importantly, did you beat him away from the last set of lights?
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Fortunately they turned green, he turned right from lane 1 still spitting abuse but drowned out by his stupid gangsta exhaust and probably late for his drug deal. i carried straight on in lane 2. When i say 'straight' on i mean a bit wobbly due to being scared sh!tless :cry:
Hey ho.
 
Chris_D said:
STUBOY2UK said:
Most importantly, did you beat him away from the last set of lights?
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Fortunately they turned green, he turned right from lane 1 still spitting abuse but drowned out by his stupid gangsta exhaust and probably late for his drug deal. i carried straight on in lane 2. When i say 'straight' on i mean a bit wobbly due to being scared sh!tless :cry:
Hey ho.
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The truth is he's probably a local florist and the car was a rental! :rofl:
 
MACK said:
Chris_D said:
STUBOY2UK said:
Most importantly, did you beat him away from the last set of lights?
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Fortunately they turned green, he turned right from lane 1 still spitting abuse but drowned out by his stupid gangsta exhaust and probably late for his drug deal. i carried straight on in lane 2. When i say 'straight' on i mean a bit wobbly due to being scared sh!tless :cry:
Hey ho.
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The truth is he's probably a local florist and the car was a rental! :rofl:
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And he was probably waving a cigarette lighter
 
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