RFT's to PS4's

huytonman

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I know that this has been covered many times before but why not remind people of the huge benefits that changing from run flats can make. My 35iS came on 19" wheels and Bridgestone RFT's, to be honest the adaptive dampers seem to do a reasonable job of keeping the ride acceptable but the car suffered from harshness, jarring, non-analogue steering feel and rattles with the roof up - it just didnt feel that safe to push beyond quite modest limits. I had a set of 18" wheels from my 35i when I bought a set of 294's with Nexens fitted so had those refurbed (not entirely successfully but that was my own fault for trying to save a few bob with a local garage who did the work), bought some slightly used front PS's from our very own sales corner and two new rears from lovetyres, my local tyre shop fitted and balanced them for £5/wheel.

Early days but I covered a couple of hundred miles yesterday and can report a significant reduction in harshness (interestingly the roof creaks seem to have gone awol), driving over cats eyes no longer results in a crashing through the car, the ride has softened up slightly but not as much as when I changed to Nexens last time but they are more comfort orientated. So the ride is better but subtely so. The noise levels appear quite a bit lower with the roof up but best of all the car now steers properly, I mentioned non-analogue earlier, the RFT's seem to impose a choppy steering feel, almost as though the road is being taken in little bites instead of linearly (something that I first noticed when I drove a new 5-series back in 2004 with RFT's..). Now the steering feels like its attached to a pair of wheels and I can actually feel things happening; its not like driving a 911 but its MUCH better than before. The rears need a bit more bedding in before pushing them but the car feels much more secure.

I had to buy a compressor and some decent wheel gunk in case of a puncture, this cost £40, sold the RFT's on Ebay for £100 and with the cost of the new tyres the change all in was about £350 which given the improvement to the car is a true bargain. I suppose if I sold the 19" wheels with almost new RFT's I could even claim to have come out of the situation in credit but I'll keep them for refitting if I sell the car in future.

So if you are sitting on the fence, think the RFT's are OK my advice would be try a car with real tyres and you will change your mind or make the jump.

Keith
 
A 35iS + good non-RFTs + 'Sport' + the gear stick pushed to the left for 'Sport Programme' (tighter adaptive suspension etc.) = a very good sports car.

On RFTs, it just isn't.
 
Busterboo said:
A 35iS + good non-RFTs + 'Sport' + the gear stick pushed to the left for 'Sport Programme' (tighter adaptive suspension etc.) = a very good sports car.

On RFTs, it just isn't.

Well said!
 
huytonman said:
Busterboo said:
A 35iS + good non-RFTs + 'Sport' + the gear stick pushed to the left for 'Sport Programme' (tighter adaptive suspension etc.) = a very good sports car.

On RFTs, it just isn't.

Well said!

Well done on the non run flats.

Only mistake is the E89 is not a sports car, it's a very very nice GT car. It's too heavy with dead steering and not nearly nimble enough to be a true 'sports car'.
 
john-e89 said:
huytonman said:
Busterboo said:
A 35iS + good non-RFTs + 'Sport' + the gear stick pushed to the left for 'Sport Programme' (tighter adaptive suspension etc.) = a very good sports car.

On RFTs, it just isn't.

Well said!

Well done on the non run flats.

Only mistake is the E89 is not a sports car, it's a very very nice GT car. It's too heavy with dead steering and not nearly nimble enough to be a true 'sports car'.

Busterboo called it a sports car, it doesnt have enough luggage or cabin space to be GT car IMO so if its not a sports car or a GT what is it then?
 
huytonman said:
john-e89 said:
huytonman said:
Well said!

Well done on the non run flats.

Only mistake is the E89 is not a sports car, it's a very very nice GT car. It's too heavy with dead steering and not nearly nimble enough to be a true 'sports car'.

Busterboo called it a sports car, it doesnt have enough luggage or cabin space to be GT car IMO so if its not a sports car or a GT what is it then?

It's a GT car with a crap boot.
 
john-e89 said:
huytonman said:
john-e89 said:
Well done on the non run flats.

Only mistake is the E89 is not a sports car, it's a very very nice GT car. It's too heavy with dead steering and not nearly nimble enough to be a true 'sports car'.



Busterboo called it a sports car, it doesnt have enough luggage or cabin space to be GT car IMO so if its not a sports car or a GT what is it then?

It's a GT car with a crap boot.

excellent reasoning, I must come to you in future when I need some wisdom
 
E89 in all guises is a very capable sports car - if you can drive.
My preference is the 23i, really grippy (Michelin Pilot Sprt 4), great, smoothly responsive engine, great mid range power with excellent feedback on the manual box.
A real 'country lane' car great on the twisties........
Oh and around 40mpg on a run!
 
mcbutler said:
E89 in all guises is a very capable sports car - if you can drive.
My preference is the 23i, really grippy (Michelin Pilot Sprt 4), great, smoothly responsive engine, great mid range power with excellent feedback on the manual box.
A real 'country lane' car great on the twisties........
Oh and around 40mpg on a run!

40mpg...was out in mine for most of today, lots of country roads and tyres now nicely scrubbed in...26.6 mpg...and I have a feeling its not going up anytime soon!
 
huytonman said:
john-e89 said:
huytonman said:
Busterboo called it a sports car, it doesnt have enough luggage or cabin space to be GT car IMO so if its not a sports car or a GT what is it then?

It's a GT car with a crap boot.

excellent reasoning, I must come to you in future when I need some wisdom

IMO it is a GT car with a crap boot. You obviously don't think so, which is also obviously fine. Neither do you seem to have a sense of humour about it so I'll leave it.
 
I travelled tk the south of france with the wife..a distance over 3k mls over 4 weeks and the boot space was more than adaquate
If you want loads of space then buy an estate car!
If you want fun and style buy a z4
The boot space was there when you bought it
Cant please everyone!
 
And your point is...?? :?

Obviously I knew the boot size otherwise I wouldn't have bought it. I'm happy to live with it, doesn't stop it being a small area mostly taken up by the roof mechanism. The new car, If the testing shots are anything to go by, will be a soft top. Why? Because it's lighter, takes up less space, give the new car more chance to become a true sports car, which the E89 isn't. Porsche have just evolved the Boxster from its creation, fundamentally not changed it, why? Because it's a killer combination that would be stupid to change. BMW are starting again with the new car, why? Because the E89 is flawed in certain areas.

It's still a very nice car which I'm happy to have, but it's not a sports car, it's a GT car with a small boot. I'm just not up my own arse enough not to be able to admit the E89 is flawed in certain areas, unlike most on this post.
 
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