If you can't see any bargains then you need to get bargaining. Are you looking just to pay a monthly hire with no down payment?mj2k said:Well, headed to the BMW and mini garage today.
Sat in all 3 cars, and only the mini felt special to me.
Took it for a test drive, loved it. Unfortunately it had the Bluetooth exhaust fitted, and fell in love with that as well...so a £1.6k option needed!! But dear lord those pops and bangs and gurgles were addictive, kept just coming off the throttle to hear them
Only downside I found is that like my old R56 JCW, something about a hot hatch makes me drive like I'm a hooligan.
Currently looking through the finance deals available, but they seem few and far between for any bargains!
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If you can't see any bargains then you need to get bargaining. Are you looking just to pay a monthly hire with no down payment?mj2k said:Well, headed to the BMW and mini garage today.
Sat in all 3 cars, and only the mini felt special to me.
Took it for a test drive, loved it. Unfortunately it had the Bluetooth exhaust fitted, and fell in love with that as well...so a £1.6k option needed!! But dear lord those pops and bangs and gurgles were addictive, kept just coming off the throttle to hear them
Only downside I found is that like my old R56 JCW, something about a hot hatch makes me drive like I'm a hooligan.
Currently looking through the finance deals available, but they seem few and far between for any bargains!
Zeld4 said:
Never leased a car in any way previously. I don't quite 'get it', as after a few years I then have a balloon payment, or walk away with nothing. In my head just getting a loan / using savings to pay it outright seems more logical - I am in control if I want to sell it & don't have any mileage limitations etc.
Perhaps I am just missing the benefits somewhere in the whole lease thing?!
I've built my car on the configurator, and it comes in just shy of £30k (for a mini!!), plus then the exhaust which is a must have. Waiting for the first dealer to come back with his best price and will then start calling about. Can't seem to believe there will be any huge savings available to be honest, 2 JCWs were purchases while I was in the dealers...seem popular!
Yeah the pcp thing is a bit swings and roundabouts. I was looking at cooper S works with a dealer I know quite well. They had deposit contribution of 1250 and took another 1000 off with out any real effort off a car costing 29k. I get the feeling there would have been more negotiation on price and interest rates.mj2k said:
But a mate of mine has just got what I think is a cracking deal on a new M140i. The car is specced to almost 38k, he got it for 31.5k. He's on a 3 year PCP deal with an interest rate of 4.1%. His balloon payment is 15k. He's putting quite a big deposit down but even so, if he paid the balloon after 3 years his total expenditure would be about 34k on a car that retails with options at almost 38k. Seems to be some cracking new car deals on at the moment
Zeld4 said:
There's £1k contribution at the moment, and probably some wiggle room on the price of fitting the exhaust, but 3 dealers so far and very little beyond that. They know there aren't many available second hand & they seem to be selling rather well; making a bargain a little tricky.
By the seaside...
Hi Perry,PerryGunn said:
They offer a £650 saving from Broadspeed. Looked at some others, and they either offer zero discount, or don't offer the car at all. The challenge is then the dealer fit option for the exhaust which wont be at a discount at all, and depending on the tips is roughly £2k fitted or £2.5k with the carbon ones
One dealer has come back with a fairly decent discount of 7.5% driven their discount, finance discount & having the exhaust offered to me at cost (carbon one too
). Already £2.5k cheaper than the first dealer, so feels a more positive place to start negotiations from.
£2.5k for a 'zorst... on a mini...!! Madness....mj2k said:Hi Perry,PerryGunn said:
They offer a £650 saving from Broadspeed. Looked at some others, and they either offer zero discount, or don't offer the car at all. The challenge is then the dealer fit option for the exhaust which wont be at a discount at all, and depending on the tips is roughly £2k fitted or £2.5k with the carbon ones
One dealer has come back with a fairly decent discount of 7.5% driven their discount, finance discount & having the exhaust offered to me at cost (carbon one too
I wanted to see what you get for £2.5k but on the mini site
https://www.mini.co.uk/jcwkitoffers
It lists the 'JCW PRO EXHAUST, CARBON OR CHROME - FROM £1,300 INCL. FITTING', the carbon one is down as £1,500 inc. fitting
Are you being ripped off....?
https://www.mini.co.uk/jcwkitoffers
It lists the 'JCW PRO EXHAUST, CARBON OR CHROME - FROM £1,300 INCL. FITTING', the carbon one is down as £1,500 inc. fitting
Are you being ripped off....?
PerryGunn said:
Thanks mate - an interesting discussion with the dealer to follow shortly :x MINI JCW PRO EXHAUST (fitted) £2,000.00 in on the initial quotation....the cheek of them! they are charging more than the cost of the Cooper S tune & exhaust there....certainly would appear that the original dealer has lost a lot of trust from me on this. Hadnt even thought to look on the mini website, as just assumed that the dealer would get these prices off a system!
The second dealer I've spoken to offered the carbon one for sub £1k, which I'm happy with along with the other bits, which is now c.12% off list price.
Third dealer I'm playing phone tag with presently (bloody meetings getting in the way!), but will ask them directly on the cost of this when they do call
(update, their pricing was way too high, and weirdly even the finance had a higher monthly cost)This is what got the inner child in me enjoying the exhaust....I should be too old for this, but at least I can switch it off when required
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_a5x9uUvHc
Probably not to everyone's taste :lol:
Well, the deposit is paid I am now waiting for delivery in September
Gone for Thunder Grey with Red roof & mirrors.
Got a little carried away with the option packs, but guess that is the point
Will miss having the M as a daily drive, but know I will appreciate taking it out at weekends even more!
Gone for Thunder Grey with Red roof & mirrors.
Got a little carried away with the option packs, but guess that is the point
Will miss having the M as a daily drive, but know I will appreciate taking it out at weekends even more!
Congratulations on your new purchase. I in a similar position too. I've taken the cooper S works for a test drive and been looking in to m140 and m240's.
Spent an hour in the dealers yesterday and if I go for a pcp they give a combined contribution 6k off a 140 and 5k of a 240. Both cars had about 4K worth of options on them. With the 140 being 3k cheaper than the 240 and the extra 1k deposit contribution I'd save a grand a year in repayments. I just can't justify the extra on the coupe. Maybe I should just go for the JCW like you! Nice colour choice by the way
Spent an hour in the dealers yesterday and if I go for a pcp they give a combined contribution 6k off a 140 and 5k of a 240. Both cars had about 4K worth of options on them. With the 140 being 3k cheaper than the 240 and the extra 1k deposit contribution I'd save a grand a year in repayments. I just can't justify the extra on the coupe. Maybe I should just go for the JCW like you! Nice colour choice by the way
Zeld4 said:Congratulations on your new purchase. I in a similar position too. I've taken the cooper S works for a test drive and been looking in to m140 and m240's.
Spent an hour in the dealers yesterday and if I go for a pcp they give a combined contribution 6k off a 140 and 5k of a 240. Both cars had about 4K worth of options on them. With the 140 being 3k cheaper than the 240 and the extra 1k deposit contribution I'd save a grand a year in repayments. I just can't justify the extra on the coupe. Maybe I should just go for the JCW like you! Nice colour choice by the way
I loved the 1 & 2 variants, and they are so capable; just found despite being slower the JCW gave me more smiles on the twisty stuff & never really thought I would say that about a FWD car vs RWD!
There is something I really like about the 1 series shape over the 2, but cant quite put my finger on exactly what it is. For the £1k saving a year, I would certainly be going for the hatch over the coupe.
Always loved Thunder Grey, although would be slightly miffed if I owned one of the GP variants given it was an exclusive colour to that model previously. Wondering whether to get the front fake intake colour coded to match the roof & mirrors at the moment. Although I did say that on my red with white roof Cooper S R56, and the white silver with red roof R56 JCW. I will in September have owned as many minis as Z4s...perhaps I should try something else next time around :lol:
I had an R56 cooper s and an R53 cooper just before that and had a 123d coupe in between the cooper S and the Z4.mj2k said:Zeld4 said:Congratulations on your new purchase. I in a similar position too. I've taken the cooper S works for a test drive and been looking in to m140 and m240's.
Spent an hour in the dealers yesterday and if I go for a pcp they give a combined contribution 6k off a 140 and 5k of a 240. Both cars had about 4K worth of options on them. With the 140 being 3k cheaper than the 240 and the extra 1k deposit contribution I'd save a grand a year in repayments. I just can't justify the extra on the coupe. Maybe I should just go for the JCW like you! Nice colour choice by the way
I loved the 1 & 2 variants, and they are so capable; just found despite being slower the JCW gave me more smiles on the twisty stuff & never really thought I would say that about a FWD car vs RWD!
There is something I really like about the 1 series shape over the 2, but cant quite put my finger on exactly what it is. For the £1k saving a year, I would certainly be going for the hatch over the coupe.
Always loved Thunder Grey, although would be slightly miffed if I owned one of the GP variants given it was an exclusive colour to that model previously. Wondering whether to get the front fake intake colour coded to match the roof & mirrors at the moment. Although I did say that on my red with white roof Cooper S R56, and the white silver with red roof R56 JCW. I will in September have owned as many minis as Z4s...perhaps I should try something else next time around :lol:
You are right, the new JCW does make you feel special and I love the interior but the exterior just doesn't sit as well on the eye as the previous generations. But it's still one of the few cars I'd want as my next.
Yeah go for extended exterior colour options!!
Fully agree, the R56 JCW was beautiful, I still don't like the overbite front bumper on the F56, it just looks weird.
That said it feels much more solid & the clutch isn't set in concrete. Found it really heavy on my old one, but got back in the M after the test drive & the M clutch felt really heavy.
Always loved the R53, still had the best proportions of the lot. Hated the R56 at first sight but it grew on me, and feeling the same way on the F. Wondering whether to cancel the damper option & just stick with sports suspension, but then like the idea of softening it up when I'm just on the motorway. Std sports suspension on 18" RFT is by all accounts about 20% harder than the R56 and that wasn't exactly a soft ride!
Wanted the 123d, but vanity on my promotion years ago saw me get an E60 520d instead as a company car. Lovely and comfy just not enough grunt, then ended up in an F10 520d a few years later, same issue, hence looking at the 535d
That said it feels much more solid & the clutch isn't set in concrete. Found it really heavy on my old one, but got back in the M after the test drive & the M clutch felt really heavy.
Always loved the R53, still had the best proportions of the lot. Hated the R56 at first sight but it grew on me, and feeling the same way on the F. Wondering whether to cancel the damper option & just stick with sports suspension, but then like the idea of softening it up when I'm just on the motorway. Std sports suspension on 18" RFT is by all accounts about 20% harder than the R56 and that wasn't exactly a soft ride!
Wanted the 123d, but vanity on my promotion years ago saw me get an E60 520d instead as a company car. Lovely and comfy just not enough grunt, then ended up in an F10 520d a few years later, same issue, hence looking at the 535d