Respraying Cars - Skill being re-learnt

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cj10jeeper

Lifer
 Lichfield, England
Well it was about time I got back to spraying, so started with an M sport bumper for my daughter's 1 series.

Fixed the scratches, flatted, primed & flatted, 2 top coats, 2 lacquer and here it is out of the gun, so not a bad result so far.

Fixed to the car now and in the process of wet sanding and polishing it up as and when I get an hour here and there. Will post some shots when finished.

Working out as I have 3 bumpers to do at around £25 each in materials plus a tenner on wet&dry, filler, etc.

Once perfected my skill I'll do an ///M bumper for the Zed on the basis if I can get it right on Sparkle Metallic Graphite, then Sterling Grey is a doddle.

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Looks good.

Would love to see a How to on paint jobs and what sort of tools are recommended. I realised years ago that I lack patience to do this really :(
 
Gargybloke said:
Looks good.

Would love to see a How to on paint jobs and what sort of tools are recommended. I realised years ago that I lack patience to do this really :(
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Not much different to painting with rattle cans, except you can get the thickness of paint you need. It's all in the preparation as any error is magnified in the end finish.

All you requires is a compressor with air tank, airline, decent gun and a mask and a space to work in.

I find the hardest part is working out the order of painting so you get the hard bits coverered then move to the larger areas while keeping a wet edge to work to. All done withouth touching or dropping sweat/dirt onto anything :(
 
I have a nice silver Z4 bumper you can practice on before you tackle your ///M bumper if you like! :wink:
Wish I had your skills - would save the current headache of trying to find a bodyshop who would do a decent job
 
Looking good so far.

Using the garage with plastic sheeting to do this?
 
Garage - yes. Brushed and cleaned out the day before.
Damped floor and sheering on a few bits and pieces.

Using old dining chair as a frame. Keeping air pressure low.
Warm dry still day and good to go :)
 
Some sort of flat black, poor condition with chips and scratches, so removed a fair bit of it and primed the whole bumper to get a decent base.


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cj10jeeper said:
Gargybloke said:
Looks good.

Would love to see a How to on paint jobs and what sort of tools are recommended. I realised years ago that I lack patience to do this really :(
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Not much different to painting with rattle cans, except you can get the thickness of paint you need. It's all in the preparation as any error is magnified in the end finish.

All you requires is a compressor with air tank, airline, decent gun and a mask and a space to work in.

I find the hardest part is working out the order of painting so you get the hard bits coverered then move to the larger areas while keeping a wet edge to work to. All done withouth touching or dropping sweat/dirt onto anything :(
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Started doing a bit myself recently. Getting the room up to temperature for good curing and setting up a compressor that ensures no water in the tank/line have been my hurdles so far. Most compressors will end up with water from the air in the tank which will cause micro blistering.

For anyone that wants to learn, I've been using this site which has also helped me learn how to Mig weld (badly). The forums are a good source of info along with the tutorials.
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/spray-painting.htm
 
Didn't plan on turning this into a spraying DIY thread, but who knows as threads develop a life of their own.

Good site Mowflow and will have a read.

I get over the temperature by choosing a warm day and ideally still. Spraying in the depth of Winter with doors closed and heaters on just compounds the issues.

One warning for anyone trying is the current 2 pack stuf is pretty nasty and you need a mask...

I always drain the tank and blow out the system before use. So far been lucky with water. Ironically the set up on my Jeep is even better as I have to first line oil the compressor, then filter the air of water and oil, before passing it into a tank and onto the air powered diffs :headbang:
 
The weather has been kind for spraying recently. Looks like you still have the spraying skills c10jeeper!
Loved spraying stuff when I was younger................probably the solvents! :roll:
 
cj10jeeper said:
Didn't plan on turning this into a spraying DIY thread, but who knows as threads develop a life of their own.

Good site Mowflow and will have a read.

I get over the temperature by choosing a warm day and ideally still. Spraying in the depth of Winter with doors closed and heaters on just compounds the issues.

One warning for anyone trying is the current 2 pack stuf is pretty nasty and you need a mask...

I always drain the tank and blow out the system before use. So far been lucky with water. Ironically the set up on my Jeep is even better as I have to first line oil the compressor, then filter the air of water and oil, before passing it into a tank and onto the air powered diffs :headbang:
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To add to your warning on the 2 pack stuff. It contains isocyanate which will pretty much give you a bad case of the deads. You therefor need a good air fed mask which requires you to be clean shaven (face only :D ). I've also been advised that all bare skin should be covered if spraying Iso containing 2 pack paints as it can be absorbed through the skin. I avoid using the stuff but have used non isocyanate containing 2 pack paint for the underside of my project car. You can also get non iso based 2 pack clear coat in a can which dries rock hard so is great for things like wheels and small body parts such as side skirts, spoilers etc.
 
nothing more satisfying than putting on that first colour coat ! looking good , could have been a tad braver and painted the lacquer coat a little wetter, ie a slightly slower pass to give you a little bit more flow before it flashes off so less flatting and polishing, but then its a fine line between that and getting a run, especially on a bumper with all those holes and vents. great job :thumbsup:
 
mad4slalom said:
nothing more satisfying than putting on that first colour coat ! looking good , could have been a tad braver and painted the lacquer coat a little wetter, ie a slightly slower pass to give you a little bit more flow before it flashes off so less flatting and polishing, but then its a fine line between that and getting a run, especially on a bumper with all those holes and vents. great job :thumbsup:
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Spot on. Easy to be brave but flatting off runs is way more frustrating. As I said relearning a skill so with all those vents and curves I erred on the safe side. Used to use cellulose and finish with slow thinners so things flowed, but can't cheat so easily with this stuff.

Hope to get it flatted and finishedater this week.
 
i did some side skirts years ago with my compressor (although used rattle can primer)

The frustration was the tiny spec of water that got in from my damp floor after i was polishing it :headbang:

Looks like you done a great job there.. love how you experimented with the daughters car first :lol:
 
aquazi said:
i did some side skirts years ago with my compressor (although used rattle can primer)

The frustration was the tiny spec of water that got in from my damp floor after i was polishing it :headbang:

Looks like you done a great job there.. love how you experimented with the daughters car first :lol:
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Of course - you would wouldn't you, before touching the Zed :)
She'll probably scrape it in a car park anyway...


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