Red line

lol great typo.

Do what you're comfortable with - all new cars initially are a bit different so perfectly fine to be apprehensive. It's rare i get a situation where the red line in first is useable - just ALWAYS do it when engine is fully warm, and when the roads safe to do so.
 
On the subject of warming up property, note your temp gauge is the temp of the water in your engine, which can be misleading as to the temp of the whole engine, most importantly the oil.

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TrickyDicky said:
When I bought my Z4 I went on the Kent forum cruise which was pretty rapid pace at times and the engine was definitely smoother after.

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Really... where do I send the bill for servicing your engine :poke:
 
Go for it... even if you're being super cautious 15-20 minutes of normal driving is definitely enough to get everything up to temperature. It is true that oil takes a lot longer to warm up than the water, and also the temp gauge is not linear.

Ragging the car in first gear will probably just give you whiplash but flooring it in second and letting the revs run through (where speed limits allow!) will show you what it can do. If you've got a 3.0 you'll get the noise generator going (loud noises will emanate from the glovebox!), and if a smaller engine then you'll get a nice (but much quieter) induction rush noise. Whether you choose to continue the fun in third gear will depend on your willpower and risk aversion...

Gearing definitely means that peak acceleration in an NA car comes from holding each gear as long as possible. However if you jump into a Diseasel Golf different rules apply :thumbsdown:
 
Hi Johnalexander - From this and your earlier posts I guess you are fairly new to getting the best out of your car. . . if so I hope this offers encouragement, if you know all this and more, then just ignore it - only trying to help!
You will start to enjoy your Zed more when you begin to use the lower and intermediate gears more on a run - take the Zed through the full rev range to vary your road speed - that way you can get used to the performance and responses of your Zed through a wider rev range. Do be careful in high revs on wet or loose or greasy roads however - it will be easier to break traction. If you're not used to revving your engine you will need to build up confidence and get used to the noise and responses but very quickly you will begin to enjoy your Zed more and more.
Try using the revs in third gear to determine your speed on a well known road rather than changing up, stay in third, rolling on and off the revs and taking the revs higher than you are used to, to maintain your various speeds - the 2.0 litre will take you to 80mph in 3rd. Of course change up once you've had enough or performance is no longer needed but you will very quickly begin to feel that the car is far more responsive at mid to higher revs - at this stage the balance of the car and weight transfer begins to be important but for now I would just experiment at holding your revs longer before changing up and holding onto your gears longer than you are used to instead of changing up into fourth fifth and sixth at lower revs. Remember you will be using the full power and performance ability of your engine this way, so plan your driving accordingly and try curling your toes to push on the accelerator rather than your whole foot for greater sensitivity when at higher revs. Take your time to build up your speed overall and don't attempt anything you don't feel able to do - there's a lot more to getting the best out of the Zed than just revving it!
Once again - ignore this if I'm stating the obvious or teaching you to 'suck eggs' - if that's not the case - then let us know how you get on!

:driving: :thumbsup:
 
I like to avoid the red line some times - if i revved to max in all my gears i'd never use 4th, 5th and 6th for fear of jailtime.


3000 to red line in 3rd is an incredible example of how good the s54 is :D It just doesn't stop going!
 
I don't abuse the car when cold or in first gear, plus I only do really hard acceleration from 3rd onwards too...

different days, I drive different ways... especially if I'm wanting to make progress with the torque, compared to the BHP...

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TrickyDicky said:
When I bought my Z4 I went on the Kent forum cruise which was pretty rapid pace at times and the engine was definitely smoother after.

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Kent cruise? Nah, we never got over 60 :whistle:

Never understand why Porsche does not have the limiter whilst they deny warranty if you get near or on the red.
 
pvr said:
TrickyDicky said:
When I bought my Z4 I went on the Kent forum cruise which was pretty rapid pace at times and the engine was definitely smoother after.

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Kent cruise? Nah, we never got over 60 :whistle: .

Of course not. Just got to 60 quickly....
 
TrickyDicky said:
pvr said:
TrickyDicky said:
When I bought my Z4 I went on the Kent forum cruise which was pretty rapid pace at times and the engine was definitely smoother after.

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Kent cruise? Nah, we never got over 60 :whistle: .

Of course not. Just got to 60 quickly....

Blimey, were there 60 Z cars that day, I kept dreaming there were more...
 
Thanks Paul, advice taken. It's like a new you that I don't want to break!! I brought it up in 3rd and I have got to say it does change driving the z4!! It feels good at higher revs . I used it on a track today and it only felt a bit scary at 120 so I backed off. Still not punted it in first , I'm to scared!!
 
Be aware that you may need earplugs if you want to use the entire rev range after removing the sound generator foam.

My ears are still ringing from tonights drive home from work :lol:
 
Johnalexander said:
Thanks Paul, advice taken. It's like a new you that I don't want to break!! I brought it up in 3rd and I have got to say it does change driving the z4!! It feels good at higher revs . I used it on a track today and it only felt a bit scary at 120 so I backed off. Still not punted it in first , I'm to scared!!

I'm not surprised you're scared - it is quite brutal in first in the 3.0 litre. (Which Zed have you got Johnalexander?)

If you're on a track can you get some professional tuition - that's the best way to learn car control rather than on the highway.

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Horsepower is the only thing that matters. Torque is there to get you horsepower. Kinda like voltage is only there to bring about current.

horsepower = torque x rpm / 5252

Your shift point is almost always redline, because you have to consider the mechanical advantage of your gearing. Just because you make more power at a certain rpm vs redline doesn't mean your power to the ground will be greater if you shift into the next higher gear. You have to consider the other pieces of the drivetrain and how they affect power, especially the transmission.

Long story short, shift at redline for max acceleration.
 
Johnalexander said:
I have the 2l, my wife would not allow the 3l :(


My missus said I wasn't allowed a 3.0 god rest her sole. Was gut wrenching pushing her into the sea during those recent storms.

Grieving has been far easier in my 3.0 Z thou :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
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