PRINCE2 Project Managers

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rhodesey35iM

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I'm after a bit of advice really. I'm a chartered manager (CMgr MCMI) and I've various management qualifications with 30 years experience in engineering/construction.

So.......anyone here qualified to PRINCE2 and if so was it worth the effort and do you feel its improved your skills sets.

Thanks in advance for any info that can be proffered

Sean
 
Yes, qualified. Do I use it? Not really, but looks good on the CV. Also gives credits towards PMP qualification
 
You need to show you understand SCRUM & Agile methodologies now.

Fancy new names for methods many of us are already using... but illustrating how you execute & proof you can deliver on time on budget by example is far more important than a P2 piece of paper. Price 2 doesn't teach you how to put down mutinies, say the right words to stop being kicked out the door... your 30 years does that
 
Yes qualified, however your much better off doing MSP (managing successful programmes) much better course for the real world project manager.
 
For Project Manager's all that matters is experience, integrity and no panic ing.. the certification gets you the foot in the door, the others make you stay there and be well rewarded.
 
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with 30 years under your belt, maybe..

but when moving up from development into PMing, it was extremely valuable (both in securing better wage and in understanding the basics).

however, you never actually follow the thing :)
 
P2 practitioner accredited, It's a good background for non-PMs, and if anything allows you to communicate using the jargon that most project / programme managers / business managers use these days.

Been in IT for 20 years doing development/consulting and project delivery but am not a dedicated PM.
I would agree that experience and general "getting stuff done" is more valuable. If nothing else the accreditation shows you're willing to open your mind to other practices and interested in continuous learning :)
 
Imo its only good for the CV, with most corporations using to adapt this into their own best practice/ ways of working.

I did my PRINCE2 5 years ago... This the foundation lasts forever- but the practitioner only lasts a couple of years... So bear that in mind for CV clatter!


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Agree with others above re experience (obvious). However, if job ads state prince2 practitioner, you need the ticket to even qualify.

Just takes about 3/4 days. So not much to lose (about £700?). Then move on to Msp.
 
Current prices for foundation and practitioner is under £600 (4 days classroom tuition + exam).. One of my reportee's just booked it a couple of weeks back.


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Blimey, didn't recall it being so pricey. 2k is a commitment, but good pm jobs can be 80-100k, so i guess its an investment.

Must admit, i wont renew my practitioner when it expires. Would just mention on cv anyway.
 
Maybe I'm adding the hotel and (bar) expenses to the cost, or the price has dropped?

Either way what I can remember it was a mind numbing course, with a ton of jargon to swallow and regurgitate on the essay type based final day exam.
 
Mine was near that, Ranksi - around £1800 if I remember correctly. That was with one of the more well-known places though; QA.

I can't quite believe how many Project Managers (or similar) there are on here. As usual, everyone saying the same thing - PRINCE2 is a waste of time in reality, but it gets you in the door - it's as simple as that.

I've not studied a lot (gave up after college), but PRINCE2 was one of the most ridiculously easy things I've done. I've studied CIPS following that and found that more difficult and far more interesting and useful.
 
Well guys you're saying what I already suspected. Not a great deal of use in real terms but looks good on the CV. Iv'e been quoted £650 so may give it a bash.
 
It's a five day course so in truth it's of less value in a real comparison to a single O level. If you think it will help you get more interviews then just do it anyway. Seems to be more about money than knowledge though. I've really only seen it mentioned on adverts for IT projects and wishy washy local authority initiatives. In engineering and construction employers expect project managers to be properly qualified in a relevant discipline with management skills as an addition rather than just being qualified in generic management.
 
GreyZed said:
In engineering and construction employers expect project managers to be properly qualified in a relevant discipline with management skills as an addition rather than just being qualified in generic management.
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This!

I see so many kids get their Bachelors, go straight into a Masters or MBA with zero real world experience and then expect to set the world on fire as a consultant. Our CEO retired recently and made a comment about "when an MBA was worth anything" and I think he had it spot on.

It's only worth something if an employer is looking for the skill set. I've seen a lot of CVs with people who "work to PRINCE 2 methodologies" but no actual certificate. If they've got a CV full of valid experience and a track record of successful deliveries...
 
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