"Previous Owners"

apparently
adverb /əˈpær.ənt.li/ /-ˈper-/

Definition
B2 used to say you have read or been told something although you are not certain it is true:
Apparently it's going to rain today.
Apparently he's had enough of England and is going back to Australia.

B2 used when the real situation is different from what you thought it was:
You know I told you Alice's party was on the 13th? Well I saw her last night and apparently it's on the 14th.
She looks about ten but apparently she's 14.
I thought they were married but apparently not (= they are not married).

B2 used to say that something seems to be true, although it is not certain:
An 80-year-old woman was badly hurt in what the police describe as an apparently motiveless attack (= an attack with no obvious purpose).




yes it has now become 'apparent' :D
 
You need to remember there's lots of choice when it comes to buying & your car won't be the only one that's for sale.

Anyone knowing you have a car ready to buy puts them in a strong buying position (YOU have a compelling event to act & you probably disclosed it) not only with you but any other car they might be looking at... it's likely at the last minute your competition buckled more than you so took the better deal.

It's life, so next time i suggest you never disclose your hand by making up some other story which doesn't imply you're disparate to sell
 
Adamski said:
To me it sounds like they're giving you a bullshit excuse instead of admitting they weren't seriously interested in the car in the first place....

Sadly, there will always be time wasters. Chin up lad.... the right buyer will come along

X2
 
I don't think I've ever asked the number of previous owners when I've viewed/bought a car.

Well, not unless I've gone there with an idea that the car/garage is a shady one and I want to get my facts straight before I tell them to get lost because of x, y, & z - and that's only so that I can report it back to other interested parties by posting it on a forum, so they don't have to listen to the same BS from the garage.

I remember when I was looking for another e34 M5, and went to a garage in Yorkshire that had a bit of a bad reputation on the forums. I thought that despite their reputation I'd go and look at / drive the car, and then negotiate the price based on the assumption that if anything was to go wrong the garage would do SFA about it.

Phoned a week before to arrange to view it (200 mile round trip). Said I was a current M5 owner so knew about common faults/corrosion areas/etc. Asked about service history, documentation, bodywork/interior condition/etc.

Was told that it was A1 and it had been part-exchanged - by a middle-aged guy who wanted something a bit more restrained - for a S500 Merc. So it was only on 50k miles (not bad for a 10 year old M5), stunning anthracite cloth/alcantara interior (my favourite), cosmos black, fully optioned with electric rear blinds and rear non-bench option (2 proper seats + fixed armrest instead of 2+ small one in the middle and drop-down armrest).

Turned up on the Saturday to find the car in the back of the garage with about a foot between it, the fence behind and the cars surrounding it. Dealer says he didn't have time to move the other cars around which means not only can I not test drive it, but I can't get in to see the state of the bodywork/interior properly.

Ask him if he's willing to move the cars around so that I can have a good look, and he says he's busy with another customer (buying a £2k runaround, versus me with £13k for the M5) and he'd give me the paperwork to look over whilst he sorting them out. This turned out to be a godsend, as the docs showed very little. The full history turned out to be a A4 piece of paper with a list of work supposedly carried (no invoices to prove though), a couple of receipts for petrol and a couple for tyres (which were for the wrong size tyres, so obviously not for this car).

Dealer comes back and I ask him for the rest of the documentation. He tells me that this is all he was given and it was more than he normally gets. So I ask if he's got any contact details for the previous owner (who he now says bought it from new) and he says he'll have to get in touch with him to find out if he wants to talk to me. 5 minutes later he's back and says the previous owner is not interested.

So after 2 hours of driving, 1 hour of waiting around, I've got a dealer with a car that he's trying to get me to buy without driving or inspecting properly, with a dodgy history and story of 1 owner.

You can probably guess that I simply handed my money over and drove it off without a care in the world :roll:

Although I did post my initial (and other members posted their) views on the car to the guys on the M5 forum who were interested. Think the car sold about 2 years later for £8k with the same mileage/issues. Issues being rusted filler cap area, dented boot (looked like a forced entry attempt), very unevenly worn tyres (i.e. geometry/suspension issues), leaking dampers (£1000 a corner), misfire at low revs (no-one actually managed a test drive though, so it might simply have been water in the fuel from sitting so long), silver & not anthracite interior - and to cap it all, it had been parked with a rear window open for a couple of months and the nearside rear interior was ruined.
 
Devilsadvocate said:
apparently
adverb /əˈpær.ənt.li/ /-ˈper-/

Definition
B2 used to say you have read or been told something although you are not certain it is true:
Apparently it's going to rain today.
Apparently he's had enough of England and is going back to Australia.

B2 used when the real situation is different from what you thought it was:
You know I told you Alice's party was on the 13th? Well I saw her last night and apparently it's on the 14th.
She looks about ten but apparently she's 14.
I thought they were married but apparently not (= they are not married).

B2 used to say that something seems to be true, although it is not certain:
An 80-year-old woman was badly hurt in what the police describe as an apparently motiveless attack (= an attack with no obvious purpose).




yes it has now become 'apparent' :D

good work. apparently.
 
Haha. Thanks for the replies, pedantry notwithstanding ;)

Still disappointed as the part-ex car was a cracking thing, though the up-side of this whole thing is that I've worked with the figures more on my budgeting as a result and widened my potential replacement car criteria :)
 
I think I am the fifth owner of my car - I'd have to go check, which sums up how much I care tbh. By the time I come to sell you can be assured the buyer will have a drawer full of receipts, a full service history with a garage full of spare bits if they're wanted... oh, and a car honestly presented and priced for it's age/condition at the time. I can sort of understand the desire of some folk to have a low mileage / low number of owners example, but if it's that important to the buyer then they should have stated it up front before getting to the point of arranging test drives and suggested PXs... Just a bit rude really.
 
I don't see the point... even if the car had 100 owners: if you have the full history and proven accident-free... What's the point?
That would mean you would never buy a car that has been in the shop for a while, from a dealer? Mosst of them have been driven by the sales-men, test-driven by potential buyers and maybe even served as a loaner... God knows what happened to those cars? I'll take a car from a car maniac any day...
 
JaEdBa said:
isn't it a bit like women?

it doesn't really matter how many previous owners...but it does! :?

And most importantly ... Good service history, and hope to god there's been little thrashing with no back end action, round the corners obviously.

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-Tom- said:
JaEdBa said:
isn't it a bit like women?

it doesn't really matter how many previous owners...but it does! :?

And most importantly ... Good service history, and hope to god there's been little thrashing with no back end action, round the corners obviously.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

most men like to think they're the first to get the back end out, whether it's a car or...
 
JaEdBa said:
isn't it a bit like women?

it doesn't really matter how many previous owners...but it does! :?
And how many of us regret ending up with a high maintenance example?
 
PerryGunn said:
JaEdBa said:
isn't it a bit like women?

it doesn't really matter how many previous owners...but it does! :?
And how many of us regret ending up with a high maintenance example?

or a bulky people carrier...one of those things that comes with age..
 
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