Pressing unlock twice

zeddy

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Hi,

Maybe not a problem, possibly user error.... but when I want to unlock the passenger side door, I have to press unlock twice. However most of the time, the second press doesn't unlock the door, and I end up standing there trying multiple times to get the door to unlock, I have no idea what is programmed into my key (will be finding out next service) but is there a specific time delay I have to wait between presses or something?


Its a 2006 zed.
 
There are 2 kinds of key programming, regarding unlocking doors.
Either button press once to unlock both doors, or once press to unlock driver's door and twice to unlock passenger's door (your case).
This programming can be changed only at BMW shop.
There is no any special delay time between the 2 presses. Just one after the other.
So regarding your problem possibly has to do with key/button itself. Sometimes the button contacts within the key dont contact well.
 
PhilDZ4 said:
I find the range of the key is really pretty shitty for the Z4 -- not just for locking/unlocking. I need to be careful where I stand, take note of how close I am to the car, etc. for the key to work reliably.

Amen to that... :(
 
PhilDZ4 said:
I find the range of the key is really pretty shitty for the Z4 -- not just for locking/unlocking. I need to be careful where I stand, take note of how close I am to the car, etc. for the key to work reliably.

Yeah, on my 325Ci, I could stand quite a distance away (ie, stand in the doorway of my house and unlock/lock the car). I complained at first about the Z4 and my service adviser told me it was because of the placement of the antenna. In the 325, it was in the upper part of the C pillar. In the Z4, it's behind the rear, left-side wheel, even in the coupes (guess they didn't want to reroute it from where the roadsters have it). Soooo, long story short is you get better response standing at the left rear of the car than from the right front.
 
WaZZZZman said:
PhilDZ4 said:
I find the range of the key is really pretty shitty for the Z4 -- not just for locking/unlocking. I need to be careful where I stand, take note of how close I am to the car, etc. for the key to work reliably.

Amen to that... :(

Weird, I can zap mine from here inside the house a good 20ft away. Maybe the antennae is not working correctly ?

Does the key need a good charge up?
 
PhilDZ4 said:
I find the range of the key is really pretty shitty for the Z4 -- not just for locking/unlocking. I need to be careful where I stand, take note of how close I am to the car, etc. for the key to work reliably.

Exactly the same for me
 
I don't know if this is related, but on the way to work today. the dash display cut out for a few seconds. Freaked me out as I was doing 100km/hr at the time down a freeway. I think it was also changing CD / CD track at the time, but thats probably just a co incidence.

It took me ages to get the boot to open this morning too. Driver side door opened ok, then subsequent presses failed to open boot or passenger door.
 
I don't think they are related. The rare dash dim is a "Zism". Mine has done it just after starting, but it's not consistent and I can't make it replicate so can't get it fixed.
 
Smokin said:
I don't think they are related. The rare dash dim is a "Zism". Mine has done it just after starting, but it's not consistent and I can't make it replicate so can't get it fixed.

Think my dash has flickered one or twice... that said maybe the auto lights kicked in - they sometimes get confused is bright sunshine :roll:
 
Adam D said:
Smokin said:
I don't think they are related. The rare dash dim is a "Zism". Mine has done it just after starting, but it's not consistent and I can't make it replicate so can't get it fixed.

Think my dash has flickered one or twice... that said maybe the auto lights kicked in - they sometimes get confused is bright sunshine :roll:



Yeah, but I don't use the "auto" on the lights (xenons so don't want them popping off and on excessively). I DO have daytime running lights set to on, though (all that lights up are the angel eyes)
 
To EXTEND the distance of the key's signal, simply hold the key to your chin, or to your hip. Amazingly, yu'll find that yu will at least triple the distance that the key will activate the doors/tops/etc. Appear s that this maneuver uses yur body as an antena and definitely extends the key's sending range...no joke!
 
Flycaster,

Ref Snopes:

RF (Radio frequency radiation) does not work that way. Most likely, you are just raising the transmitter to a high enough level to pass over more obstructions. You would get the same effect by simply holding the key thingy over your head, and then not look like such a twit.

Let's break this down...

Your mouth and skull somehow focuses the RF energy forward or spread the signal outward in all directions. In the first case, this would only work if you already knew the direction of the car (thus focusing the energy in that direction). In the second case, unless you have an RF amp in your head, dispersing the signal over a wider range will decrease the strength of the signal.

But, this is not how RF works. Look at a radar dish; radar works on RF, and the dishes are made of a material that will reflect RF. The dish is shaped as a parabola so that the reflected RF is focused in a certain direction. Now, if we look at a radio or cellular antenna, it is just a rod made of metal. The idea here is to disperse the signal 360 degrees. Though these two types of antenna have a different desired outcome, one thing they have in common is that they are not made from flesh and bone. Why? Because flesh and bone are horrible for reflecting or transmitting RF radiation.

RF, at low levels, passes through the human body. Just as it can pass through concrete walls, plaster, electrical wiring (if it isn't too dense), plastics, glass, etc. What it can't pass through are engine blocks, metal rims, rebar, anything metal. In other words, the things you might find in a parking garage. Most of which are found below shoulder height. If the guy in the video had merely raised the transmitter to the same height and NOT pointed it to his chin, he most likely would have had the same result.

Now, for those who brought up the rabbit ears and such... the receiving end is a slightly different story. RF creates an electro-magnetic field and by touching the antenna, moving them or even moving yourself, you are altering the field around that antenna (yes, even you have an electro magnetic field). That's because the signal is weaker at the receiving end, and small changes make a big difference. I do not recommend trying these at the transmitter, because you will be badly burned, and the signal will go out as normal.
 
20ducks said:
Flycaster,

Ref Snopes:

RF (Radio frequency radiation) does not work that way. Most likely, you are just raising the transmitter to a high enough level to pass over more obstructions. You would get the same effect by simply holding the key thingy over your head, and then not look like such a twit.

Let's break this down...

Your mouth and skull somehow focuses the RF energy forward or spread the signal outward in all directions. In the first case, this would only work if you already knew the direction of the car (thus focusing the energy in that direction). In the second case, unless you have an RF amp in your head, dispersing the signal over a wider range will decrease the strength of the signal.

But, this is not how RF works. Look at a radar dish; radar works on RF, and the dishes are made of a material that will reflect RF. The dish is shaped as a parabola so that the reflected RF is focused in a certain direction. Now, if we look at a radio or cellular antenna, it is just a rod made of metal. The idea here is to disperse the signal 360 degrees. Though these two types of antenna have a different desired outcome, one thing they have in common is that they are not made from flesh and bone. Why? Because flesh and bone are horrible for reflecting or transmitting RF radiation.

RF, at low levels, passes through the human body. Just as it can pass through concrete walls, plaster, electrical wiring (if it isn't too dense), plastics, glass, etc. What it can't pass through are engine blocks, metal rims, rebar, anything metal. In other words, the things you might find in a parking garage. Most of which are found below shoulder height. If the guy in the video had merely raised the transmitter to the same height and NOT pointed it to his chin, he most likely would have had the same result.

Now, for those who brought up the rabbit ears and such... the receiving end is a slightly different story. RF creates an electro-magnetic field and by touching the antenna, moving them or even moving yourself, you are altering the field around that antenna (yes, even you have an electro magnetic field). That's because the signal is weaker at the receiving end, and small changes make a big difference. I do not recommend trying these at the transmitter, because you will be badly burned, and the signal will go out as normal.


Sure thing... Well, unless you're IMZ4N... :poke:
 
Hey Ducks, nice explanation. However, have you tried to see if the key works at a distance by simply raising it over your head? I havent, but I'm going to try it soon. I do know, though, that the chin (twitty approach) does work at relatively great distances.
 
OK, ran the test: Locked and armed the car, stepped off a good distance from the car, held key over my head (no obstructions in the area)---nothing happened, put the key to my chin, car un armed and unlocked. Tried several times in different areas, results the same. Conclusion---be a twitt if you want your car to unlock at a great distance.
 
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