Pre/post facelift seats

bigwinn

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Lincoln UK
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I did search but couldn’t find a definitive answer

Pre facelift and post facelift seats- no fitment or loom differences I presume?

Cheers

Stuart
 
Same loom and pins, but a different (incompatible) seat occupancy sensor mat in passenger seat. Pre facelift has a small module under the seat, reading the mat, in post facelift the mat connects directly to the connector. Either use an ebay module to bypass the system or, which many have done, seat out, leather off and change the mat to a compatible one.
 
Aiming to swap facelift (07 plate) sports seats into a 53 plated standard seat car.

Older car is not heated but newer seats are heated, neither are motor driven;

DMike assume that i will need to get the bypass fitted to passenger only?
 
bigwinn said:
Aiming to swap facelift (07 plate) sports seats into a 53 plated standard seat car.

Older car is not heated but newer seats are heated, neither are motor driven;

DMike assume that i will need to get the bypass fitted to passenger only?
Yes, only the passenger seat has occupancy detection. There were some threads a while ago about changing the mat and another one about adding heating elements. Changing the mat is ertainly doable (amateurishly done one myself), I guess adding heating would be just a bit more, involving the seat backs too.
 
Thank you will have a good old search!!

Again- if it’s a swap both ways (old to new and vice versa) I assume two bypasses needed?
 
bigwinn said:
Thank you will have a good old search!!

Again- if it’s a swap both ways (old to new and vice versa) I assume two bypasses needed?
I’d guess so. Never used one of those, but they might be different for pre and post facelift. I think they fool the system to think the passenger seat is not occupied, so the passenger airbag is effectively deactivated :? .
 
DMike said:
bigwinn said:
Thank you will have a good old search!!

Again- if it’s a swap both ways (old to new and vice versa) I assume two bypasses needed?
I’d guess so. Never used one of those, but they might be different for pre and post facelift. I think they fool the system to think the passenger seat is not occupied, so the passenger airbag is effectively deactivated :? .
Or then a bypass module that emulates the seat being occupied, plus coding the seat belt chime away. Not sure it’s much less than changing the mat, though.
 
I've swapped Msport seats into a pre-facelift car. All was OK initially but after a couple of months needed to fit a by-pass. Easy job and has been fine for two years.
There's two types of bypass depending on age of car, so make sure it's the right one. I didn't first time round :oops:
 
Sidewaze Samm said:
I've swapped Msport seats into a pre-facelift car. All was OK initially but after a couple of months needed to fit a by-pass. Easy job and has been fine for two years.
There's two types of bypass depending on age of car, so make sure it's the right one. I didn't first time round :oops:

Thanks- you got a link?
 
bigwinn said:
Thanks- you got a link?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154353078953?hash=item23f02912a9:g:STcAAOSwHERZzkBM

This is the one that I fitted - at second attempt. Initially I bought the wrong one that was for pre-facelift cars, when I should have matched the seat not the car :headbang:
But note that the vendor does state there is some crossover of parts on 2004-06 cars.
 
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