Postal service
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The "get out" works in the following circumstances, assuming first class postage which has a presumed delivery of 2 days.
- If posted on day 13 and arrives on day 15, it is timed out as the presumption of delivery could not reasonably be met. If it arrives on day 14, bad luck for you.
- If there is a postal strike, the presumption of a 2 day delivery can not be reasonably met. Hence the article by Nick Freeman that "thousands would get away with speeding" as the delivery means of first class postage cannot reasonably expect a delivery within the required 14 days. The NIP issuing organisation would have to use a different means (like registered post, courier etc to meet the presumed delivery times - but they don't).
- Delivery to the wrong address due to their error (assuming your V5 details are correct). There is more effort involved as proving that is more difficult.
Note that the delivery is to the registered keeper, so if it is a lease car, you would have to prove that the lease company received it too late if you think that is the case. That would be very challenging, but has been done in the past.
Section 28 of the NIP (who was the driver) still has to be filled in even when delivered late.
- If posted on day 13 and arrives on day 15, it is timed out as the presumption of delivery could not reasonably be met. If it arrives on day 14, bad luck for you.
- If there is a postal strike, the presumption of a 2 day delivery can not be reasonably met. Hence the article by Nick Freeman that "thousands would get away with speeding" as the delivery means of first class postage cannot reasonably expect a delivery within the required 14 days. The NIP issuing organisation would have to use a different means (like registered post, courier etc to meet the presumed delivery times - but they don't).
- Delivery to the wrong address due to their error (assuming your V5 details are correct). There is more effort involved as proving that is more difficult.
Note that the delivery is to the registered keeper, so if it is a lease car, you would have to prove that the lease company received it too late if you think that is the case. That would be very challenging, but has been done in the past.
Section 28 of the NIP (who was the driver) still has to be filled in even when delivered late.
That is where the presumption comes in. If it arrived on day 12, it would have been sent on day 10 (or before) so it meets the presumed delivery time of 2 days.
However, when there are strikes or the presumed time extends due to Christmas, bank holidays or even now with no postal deliveries happening, this means that they have to send earlier to meet the legal deadline of 14 days arriving. The key is in the presumption delivery times, i.e. sending it on friday means you cannot expect it to be there until monday which may cause it to time out.
However, when there are strikes or the presumed time extends due to Christmas, bank holidays or even now with no postal deliveries happening, this means that they have to send earlier to meet the legal deadline of 14 days arriving. The key is in the presumption delivery times, i.e. sending it on friday means you cannot expect it to be there until monday which may cause it to time out.
Attleborough, Norfolk
Devon
pvr said:Argyll Andy said:My OH’s son just started work as a Postie on the new T&C’s the strikes were all about. Contract 35 hrs p/w working 5 days out of 6 on a rotational shift pattern basis so they all get the weekend off at some point
Is he happy / unhappy about the terms? What were the old terms that they were striking to keep them? Google just shows “about pay and pensions”
He’s happy Paul as he didn’t have a job and came straight on at the higher rate of pay that had been negotiated as a result of the strike. Afaik, most of the changes affect the older/longer term employees. The basic contract previously was 40 hrs, his (any) new one is 35hrs p/w. They lose 5 hrs p/w if on holiday/sick etc. He works X days out of Y some of the older staff had say Mon-Fri contracts, every second weekend off, no weekend working etc.
He still works the 40 hrs but claims the additional 5 and as above then doesn’t get the additional if not working for any reason. He also technically should only have 1 Sat in 6 off with the rotational shift pattern.
Then suck their teeth and say it won't fit in their trolley!Nanu said:If you tick the right box, they bring the label when they collect the parcelMikeyH said:Apparently if I use the computer and print off a label for posting I can have the postie collect it from the house.
Or, you leave it in a named location for them if you're not in and they claim it wasn't there.
When they turn up the next day and are grilled in full Glaswegian mode by the wife they then admit they left it as they couldn't fit it in their trolley. Try to do a runner until wifey pens them in and insists they call their supervisor!
FFS, the ones round here are lazy f*ckwits who look for any excuse not to do their job.
The next day I left a message on the post box............... "Dear Postie, no awfully complicated collections for you today as Evri have it all sorted at half the price. Hope you haven't strained anything reading this note."
