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Vanne

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I am really considering this kit atm.. Its been a while and have done quite a bit of research into it, contacted Flossman and have had a few good emails backwards and forwards between them.

Is there anyone else here who would be interested in doing a GB?

Haven't quite pulled the trigger on it yet, but i am getting there. biggest hurdle will be having parts left over around my house, the wife will not like more "crap" around the place..

Id be looking at the CF stuff.

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Its the same kit as in this thread.

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934955

Thought thats pretty much for track car only, i still want mine to be able to run on the road. So looking for lighter weight and wide wheels to fit. also going to keep with my current rear wing and boot. (Byron, yeah man, i know how heavy the boot is man, we've talked about it before and Flossman DO do a CF boot lid.. so i might be tempted with that...all depends on available funds)

The flossman site...

http://www.racingparts-bmw.de/start/eng/start.htm

I hear its a lot of panel work to make it look like OEM, but i figure, if not where i am living now (where labour is cheap) then when?

Not entirely convinced yet, but i am getting there.. pretty sure that this is the direction where id like to take my car next..

This is with APR wing and stock boot in place.

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and rear shot of 2 cars..

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side shot, looks like crap with silver wheels.. black on the other hand.. :wub:

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anyways, created this thread to start thinking and branching ideas in what would need to be done for the car to retain its OEM quality. I guess it will shed some weight using the CF parts..

Anyone have any ideas, please feel free to share them. :thumbsup:

I wish i could find another cheap as chips e86 M, than the decision would be ohh so easy!!!, id like to remove a lot of the interior if i went in this direction, which would be a shame for my current M. Anyways, ..

Those last 2 pics show at least 2 fingers of height between the top of the tire and the fender, i would imagine due to crappy roads, where i live i would be able to reduce that with no worries to 1 finger.. like i have on my current car.

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That would be perfect for a track car, but it looks like a serious compromise for road use. I've pondered about replacing every panel with carbon fibre and increasing the width of front and rear arches as a part of that, but I've yet to see a kit that would work for a car used on both the road and track. One day when money is unlimited (and I haven't just paid for my wedding), I'll look at it seriously, but a supercharger will come first for me.
 
Isn't it all a little extreme for track days. If you were in a racing series I could understand but for track day fun it seems pointless. I'd stick with what you have at the moment but just carry on changing to carbon components to save weight.
 
My preference for widebody is the Slek one....but not sure if it provides any track benefits.

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000002
 
Angelus666 said:
My preference for widebody is the Slek one....but not sure if it provides any track benefits.

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000002
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That’s much more like what I’ve had in mind. In fact, it would be just about perfect with wheels of a different colour :thumbsup:
 
Never mind two fingers, you could fist that gap!

Personally i'd far sooner put the money into original looking carbon panels or in to building an absolutely mental NA s54/s65
 
beanie said:
Never mind two fingers, you could fist that gap!

Personally i'd far sooner put the money into original looking carbon panels or in to building an absolutely mental NA s54/s65
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^^^ This!.
My dream;
Redo all the (at least) front panels in carbon to try and lose weight from the front (which is the impossible bit with our cars), losing it from the rear is relatively easy and will upset f/r balance.
Redo the engine fully, like really properly the most modern materials to redo the S54 ala what's going on here...
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a11655046/singer-williams-engine/
"It's based off a 3.6-liter flat-six from a 1990 911, but it's been modified with four camshafts, four-valve cylinder heads, a dual oil circuits, titanium connecting rods, aluminum throttle bodies, carbon fiber intake trumpets, and a carbon fiber air box. It makes 500 hp, and it should rev beyond 9000 rpm."

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F**k yeah! Amazing :o 8)

Could re-cast our blocks in something way lighter, give it over square dimensions and make it Rev to the moon. Group buy anyone......

Actually, sod the group buy, lets all just bully vanne until he caves in :poke: :D
 
beanie said:
Could re-cast our blocks in something way lighter,
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I had the luck and joy of driving an eagle e-type recently, this is exactly what they did and recast the jag straight six in aluminium... but it does cost a million squid! :whistle:
 
Not sure on that OP......


id LOVE carbon doors, fenders and trunk lid all painted in the stock Ti silver maybe widened slightly , do some head work, let it rev to 8250 with my current Blower setup and live a happy man, this engine at the top of the rev range with boost is something i will never quite get my head around!
 
that singer donk is sex on a stick, but so is the price tag that comes with it. depending on how much stuff i wanna pull out of the coupe, i think its a viable option (cash flow wise) for me to get into something more hard core. might do a bit more thinking on this.. i just wish i had a ratted out z4mc, then the decision would be soo easy.. :driving:
 
beanie said:
F**k yeah! Amazing :o 8)

Could re-cast our blocks in something way lighter, give it over square dimensions and make it Rev to the moon. Group buy anyone......

Actually, sod the group buy, lets all just bully vanne until he caves in :poke: :D
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lol, not much bullying required.. if this goes ahead, it will be for next years Dubai 24H, not this coming Jan, but the next. and id be looking for a co-driver...

might see if i can come up some ideas on how this would all fit together.. anyone keen to sponsor? :D :lol:
 
Hi Vanne, top marks for wanting to do this, but......if you want it to look like the Red Bull car, you are in for a LOT of fabrication work! The body kit will bolt on relatively easily, if it is the proper BMW Motorsport item, as in the orange and green cars, the other copy kits might be a little more challenging? IIRC Flossmann do a kit with deeper arch lips to allow for a higher ride height, without it looking odd. I have seen a black and orange race car with this kit on, but it doesn't look quite as good as the proper thing. The GT car looks so right, that you don't realise just how much it is lowered and modified from the standard item. The suspension will get totally out of whack if you lower the car enough to make it look correct, and then the tyres will be hitting the tops of the inner wheel arches. The guy in Australia did lots of mods to get it all working, although somewhat different to the factory approach. The differential and rear inner suspension pivot points have to be raised, and also the front suspension to suit. There are many other things too, and it would be running very close to the ground, which compromises road use to a great extent. I sincerely hope you do it, but it will be a very different sort of car afterwards.
 
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This was racing at Brands Hatch when I was working there a couple of months back, looked superb. 8)
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Dave, any more pics of this mate?

Cheers

V.
 
TomK said:
I had the luck and joy of driving an eagle e-type recently, this is exactly what they did and recast the jag straight six in aluminium... but it does cost a million squid! :whistle:
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I seem to remember a post/thread on you driving it, I had no idea they'd re done the block though! Goes some way to explaining the cost I suppose.



Vanne said:
lol, not much bullying required.. if this goes ahead, it will be for next years Dubai 24H, not this coming Jan, but the next. and id be looking for a co-driver...

might see if i can come up some ideas on how this would all fit together.. anyone keen to sponsor? :D :lol:
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Sounds like that will be one hell of an experience 8) as for sponsorship, I can stretch to a packet of hob nobs and a curly wurly if that's any good to you :?
 
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