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[Beedub]

AND this is why i would never post my car for sale on this forum. EVER.

GL OP im sorry for the BS on you FS thread, car looks wicked, and its a great colour underneath too, you've got some pics evidencing the before paint condition, looks like a lovely overall car.

relatively lowish miles and imo at 14.5k its a bargain!

 

[john-e89]

AND this is why i would never post my car for sale on this forum. EVER.

GL OP im sorry for the BS on you FS thread, car looks wicked, and its a great colour underneath too, you've got some pics evidencing the before paint condition, looks like a lovely overall car.

relatively lowish miles and imo at 14.5k its a bargain!

You ripped me to pieces when I sold my first M, short memory obviously...

 

[Beedub]

AND this is why i would never post my car for sale on this forum. EVER.

GL OP im sorry for the BS on you FS thread, car looks wicked, and its a great colour underneath too, you've got some pics evidencing the before paint condition, looks like a lovely overall car.

relatively lowish miles and imo at 14.5k its a bargain!

You ripped me to pieces when I sold my first M, short memory obviously...

i may have well done, and actually have commented on the general trend on here, which back in the day ive been part of, but more recent years have tried to change some of the cultures of the club and its members, myself included........ But seems as tho you didn't like it, i see your here dishing out your helping too... So i guess we both are as bad as each other.

 

[john-e89]

AND this is why i would never post my car for sale on this forum. EVER.

GL OP im sorry for the BS on you FS thread, car looks wicked, and its a great colour underneath too, you've got some pics evidencing the before paint condition, looks like a lovely overall car.

relatively lowish miles and imo at 14.5k its a bargain!

You ripped me to pieces when I sold my first M, short memory obviously...

i may have well done, and actually have commented on the general trend on here, which back in the day ive been part of, but more recent years have tried to change some of the cultures of the club and its member, myself included........ But seems as tho you didn't like it, i see your here dishing out your helping too....

Again a short memory, I didn’t say anything negative on your comments, I took it on the chin, so how you can say I didn’t like it is baffling. Nothing worse than a reformed smoker preaching.

 

[Beedub]

You ripped me to pieces when I sold my first M, short memory obviously...

i may have well done, and actually have commented on the general trend on here, which back in the day ive been part of, but more recent years have tried to change some of the cultures of the club and its member, myself included........ But seems as tho you didn't like it, i see your here dishing out your helping too....

Again a short memory, I didn’t say anything negative on your comments, I took it on the chin, so how you can say I didn’t like it is baffling. Nothing worse than a reformed smoker preaching.

you clearly didn't otherwise you wouldn't mention it years later.....

 

[john-e89]

i may have well done, and actually have commented on the general trend on here, which back in the day ive been part of, but more recent years have tried to change some of the cultures of the club and its member, myself included........ But seems as tho you didn't like it, i see your here dishing out your helping too....

Again a short memory, I didn’t say anything negative on your comments, I took it on the chin, so how you can say I didn’t like it is baffling. Nothing worse than a reformed smoker preaching.

you clearly didn't otherwise you wouldn't mention it years on.....

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

 

[Beedub]

Again a short memory, I didn’t say anything negative on your comments, I took it on the chin, so how you can say I didn’t like it is baffling. Nothing worse than a reformed smoker preaching.

you clearly didn't otherwise you wouldn't mention it years on.....

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

just pointing out ** behaviour.... just as i did back then on your thread, which was equally **.

 

[john-e89]

you clearly didn't otherwise you wouldn't mention it years on.....

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

just pointing out ** behaviour.... just as i did back then on your thread, which was equally **.

Getting nasty and sweary, that’s very classy. Argument lost obviously. I’ll leave you to your hypocritical potty mouth.

 

[Beedub]

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

just pointing out ** behaviour.... just as i did back then on your thread, which was equally **.

Getting nasty and sweary, that’s very classy. Argument lost obviously. I’ll leave you to your hypocritical potty mouth.

ok john.... goodnite.

 

[john-e89]

just pointing out ** behaviour.... just as i did back then on your thread, which was equally **.

Getting nasty and sweary, that’s very classy. Argument lost obviously. I’ll leave you to your hypocritical potty mouth.

ok john.... goodnite.

Enjoy your evening.

 

[srhutch]

Four posts above edited for language and quoted language.

 

[Beedub]

Four posts above edited for language and quoted language.

you missed some.

 

[derin100]

I think the wrap looks great! very unique! Car looks nice

Plus its a lovely colour underneath that is pretty rare!

The service schedule could be easily sorted by giving the car an INS2 soonish after purchase for piece of mind by a reputable specialist. The main thing is the car has been serviced regularly in time and mileage, apart from the first service which was abit late. Having 2 INS1 in a row at least its over serviced not under. Although the INS2 should have been done earlier and im not sure if the garage would have checked the valve clearances, or maybe the garage supplied a tolerance sheet. Many of these smaller garages tick the INS2 box because it has an INS1 previous. Not the end of the world the main difference between the two is the valve clearances, possible shim replacement.

Car looks in great condition. Be a great car for someone at sensible money GLWTS OP

Totally agree!

Frankly, all this "anality" on here about when a service was done and in what order etc is just that...tedious "anality" for the sake of it.

It's fairly obvious if a car has been totally neglected and never serviced up until and including the point of sale. But, face it....these are for the most part 10+ year old cars and most are well out of and no longer covered by warranties anymore let alone the supposed 'water-tight' BMW Warranties....which I can assure you aren't 'water-tight' at all.

On a new BMW I can see the rationale for sticking to their prescribed servicing schedule simply because they have you over a barrel because if you deviate at all. Immediately you present them with an opportunity/excuse and they won't pay up on the warranty. It's the easiest (of many) get "out clauses" for them! But on a 10+ year old/out of warranty car it amounts to not using your brain and slavishly following an irrelevant prescription.

All this nonsense I read about "You must make sure you change your oil every 6 months...or 12 months etc. etc....irrespective of mileage etc etc. :x " Where's your scientific evidence? There isn't any. There's no evidence that a modern fully-synthetic oil degrades and loses it's properties on a simply temporal basis when it's not used.

I've been driving, have owned BMWs (lots of them if you looked at my website!) and have been a Club member for over 35 years now. I've had many, many things go wrong with BMWs over those years but I don't think I can recall a single one of those problems that would have been averted by servicing a car every 12 months (or even rigidly to the prescribed schedule in the booklet) simply based on time alone....or that could be attributed to not doing so.

IMHO, on a car that's over 10 years old and not under warranty (although apparently this example is?) that's just mindlessly throwing money away! Doing so, or even nit-picking service histories, on such cars is one step away from train-spotting.

The OP's car looks like a good car to me. I'm not a fan of wraps...but some people are and will love the colour...so it's neither a plus nor a negative point overall.

Best of luck with the sale to the OP!

 

[john-e89]

Mroadster I offer my apologies for commenting on your post, I went too far.

Beedub and I have shaken hands in a PM, time to move on, life’s too short.

 

[mr wilks]

Frankly, all this "anality" on here about when a service was done and in what order etc is just that...tedious "anality" for the sake of it.

nit-picking service histories, on such cars is one step away from train-spotting.

Its not anality & its not "train-spotting" though is it :wink: word it anyway you like but along with present condition & spec the service history is as important a factor as any when it comes to a cars credentials & anyone who follows the market ( as you imply you do ) for M cars should know inherently that service history is how a car holds or loses much of its perceived value .
There is no suggestion anywhere on this thread that it may have affected the cars current mechanical state , i simply pointed out the hiccups as someone looking for their first M car may not know how the regime should be done & simply read the heading "full service history" then assume all is in perfect sequence .

As for you embracing "tomscotts" post with "not the end of the world " quip ive lost count of the cars he's viewed then slated due to s/h being all over the place so that did amuse me somewhat :roll: especially as he indicates the main difference between ins1 & ins2 is valve clearances when these should be done on both :wink: ins2 simply adds gearbox + diff oil to the list of chores


Your oil change thoughts ? That's a personal stand & totally up to you , many like myself prefer to change it once a year , my own take is preferably after winter as warm engines that then stand cold for days or weeks can produce condensation depending how they are stored between use & water with oil ? not ideal so why wouldn't you spend £100 or so for peace of mind on a £15k /£18k / £22k machine :?

 

[Yorkie Z]

Unfortunately I'm sure if the op had 3000 posts on his account everyone would say how amazing the car is and how it's worth ever penny.

Car looks nice and it's good to have pictures before the wrap. Good luck with the sale

 

[Angelus666]

Also, worth noting that DUB Customs are one of the leading companies in the market with a fantastic reputation.....they have a wait list for booking a car in, so they are in no way in the business of taking on cars to mask dodgy rusty paintwork. Give them a call, pretty sure they'd vouch for the paint before applying the wrap.

OP, I think the wrap looks great, leave it on and anyone with half a brain will see the quality when they come to see it. Ignore the grumpy old men on here....GLWTS

 

[mr wilks]

To be fair Yorkie , Angelus & beedub , i can't find one comment in all the thread which says the car doesn't look good :? & not one saying it isn't worth what's being asked :?
The Op clearly wants to sell it & like it or not the wrap will deter many from even considering it let alone viewing majority of the posts simply indicate if he wants it gone then presenting the car as close to original as poss will increase his chances considerably .
Definitely worth starting a new sale thread Op & let this one disappear

 

[Yorkie Z]

To be fair Yorkie , Angelus & beedub , i can't find one comment in all the thread which says the car doesn't look good :? & not one saying it isn't worth what's being asked :?
The Op clearly wants to sell it & like it or not the wrap will deter many from even considering it let alone viewing majority of the posts simply indicate if he wants it gone then presenting the car as close to original as poss will increase his chances considerably .
Definitely worth starting a new sale thread Op & let this one disappear

It's the first time I've seen the thread this morning and it's a very negative read and a little disappointing. Fair points have been raised but on the whole its very off putting for a potential buyer. Agree with what you say about putting this one to rest and the OP starting again.

 

[derin100]

So, just let me get this clear....?

This mysterious water that creeps into and actually mixes with your engine oil over winter (I wasn't aware that water and oil mix), what happens to it to this particular form of water as soon as the engine temperature exceeds 100 C ?
Or, does this mysterious old water then leave some form of 'poison' that then affects the protective properties of your oil?

I'm further confused as to why then this mysterious water or its residue should be hazardous to M- Engines on a 12 monthly basis yet seemingly OK for all other BMW engines only if left for 2 years (according to their servicing schedule) regardless of mileage incurred... :?

At best this all just sounds like armchair theorising to me; more logically it just sounds like a waste of time and money for the sake of it.

I repeat, I have never experienced a problem on any BMW which can be attributed to not adhering to a prescribed element of the service schedule on a time only basis.

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this.