People faking Depression?

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Vbstein

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Hey Guys

I wanted to get your thoughts on this on this topic. There are some but not many who are genuine with their condition of depression and I accept this.

However I see many people who I know who are normally than younger me use depression as an excuse for not being held responsible for stupid actions/

For example one girl, who is 25 years old and only works a maximum of 12 hours a week. She plays in a rock band and spends what little money she gets on drinks, games and going out to nightclubs/gigs.

However when she is called out for not paying her way or not being grateful for a lift somewhere. She always uses the depressed card! “come on guys this isn’t helping with my depression!”

Have you seen any people like this?

Thanks Guys
 
See them everywhere.

It's either depression, stress, or autism/ADHD - and that's not to say any of those are not real problems, it's just the scroungers/whiners using it as an excuse that get's my goat.

I'm depressed now due to all the stress at work, and my ME and ADHD is flaring up - pity I'm self-employed, otherwise I'd be taking months off work :poke:
 
She sounds like a cool rock chick man! I'm guessing she looks like Avril Lavigne. She needs a Zed with at least 3 litres under the bonnet to compliment her bad girl image.

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She would then need to work the other 28 hours like the rest of us to pay for fuel and modding. So I think I have just discovered a new treatment for depression! It definitely worked on me anyway! :D
 
Vbstein said:
Hey Guys

I wanted to get your thoughts on this on this topic. There are some but not many who are genuine with their condition of depression and I accept this.

However I see many people who I know who are normally than younger me use depression as an excuse for not being held responsible for stupid actions/

For example one girl, who is 25 years old and only works a maximum of 12 hours a week. She plays in a rock band and spends what little money she gets on drinks, games and going out to nightclubs/gigs.

However when she is called out for not paying her way or not being grateful for a lift somewhere. She always uses the depressed card! “come on guys this isn’t helping with my depression!”

Have you seen any people like this?

Thanks Guys
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What's depression got to do with that?! You have to take some of the blame collectively though - if she doesn't pay her way then don't include her in a round, let her buy her own or get everyone in a whip. If she doesn't give thanks (or a contribution?) for lifts then don't give her one!
 
Scooba_Steve said:
Vbstein said:
Hey Guys

I wanted to get your thoughts on this on this topic. There are some but not many who are genuine with their condition of depression and I accept this.

However I see many people who I know who are normally than younger me use depression as an excuse for not being held responsible for stupid actions/

For example one girl, who is 25 years old and only works a maximum of 12 hours a week. She plays in a rock band and spends what little money she gets on drinks, games and going out to nightclubs/gigs.

However when she is called out for not paying her way or not being grateful for a lift somewhere. She always uses the depressed card! “come on guys this isn’t helping with my depression!”

Have you seen any people like this?

Thanks Guys
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What's depression got to do with that?! You have to take some of the blame collectively though - if she doesn't pay her way then don't include her in a round, let her buy her own or get everyone in a whip. If she doesn't give thanks (or a contribution?) for lifts then don't give her one!
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Na I dont pay for her or give her lifts, but I hear it all the time lol
 
GreyZed said:
She sounds like a cool rock chick man! I'm guessing she looks like Avril Lavigne. She needs a Zed with at least 3 litres under the bonnet to compliment her bad girl image.

:evil:



She would then need to work the other 28 hours like the rest of us to pay for fuel and modding. So I think I have just discovered a new treatment for depression! It definitely worked on me anyway! :D
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Sounds like a great cure :)
 
I assume this girl has been medically diagnosed as having depression or is it just her opinion?

Sounds like she gets "depression" whenever she gets pulled up for being a lazy, free loader. In my circle of friends, you would soon be caught out if you are taking more often than giving. In most groups there seems to be a clever one who thinks everyone else exists to do them favours or use them so they don't have to get their hand in their pocket.

I hope people like that end up lonely and maybe understand that give and take is everything. Nice to use "depression" as an excuse though, is the modern day equivalent of a bad back...!!

H.
 
Vbstein said:
Hey Guys

I wanted to get your thoughts on this on this topic. There are some but not many who are genuine with their condition of depression and I accept this.
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I'd like to hear how you come to that conclusion. You and expert on mental health? I detest malingering, lazy cnuts as much as anyone but genuine mental health issues are nothing to be dismissive about or trivialised.
 
Skinhead201 said:
Vbstein said:
Hey Guys

I wanted to get your thoughts on this on this topic. There are some but not many who are genuine with their condition of depression and I accept this.
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I'd like to hear how you come to that conclusion. You and expert on mental health? I detest malingering, lazy cnuts as much as anyone but genuine mental health issues are nothing to be dismissive about or trivialised.
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I know someone who was so depressed she tried to take her own life, so I know that she was genuine. I believe me, dislike lazy sods too.
 
Vbstein said:
Skinhead201 said:
Vbstein said:
Hey Guys

I wanted to get your thoughts on this on this topic. There are some but not many who are genuine with their condition of depression and I accept this.
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I'd like to hear how you come to that conclusion. You and expert on mental health? I detest malingering, lazy cnuts as much as anyone but genuine mental health issues are nothing to be dismissive about or trivialised.
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I know someone who was so depressed she tried to take her own life, so I know that she was genuine. I believe me, dislike lazy sods too.
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Still doesn't explain why you think most people fake depression. I know a few who have actually taken their own life and seen it in the flesh so to speak too. No pleasant I can tell you that.
 
I don't think this just relates to depression, it can be any illness. Bad back is a favourite.

However, real depression is an horrendous illness and I have seen it first hand. IIf anyone who does not have first hand knowledge, would not take it lightly if a family member was suffering. It manifests in various forms and isn't just the stereo-typical head in hands. It is a truly frightening experience for everyone close to the person but most of all the person themselves.

I'm also not sure how you came to the conclusion that MOST are faking it, I think you maybe meant that most ARENT faking it. The stigma around mental health is horrific.

I do feel that in the context of the girl, it sounds like she is making the most of it. It maybe, however, that she has a phobia about driving, many people do, or a certain situation related to it. Maybe you should ask her what it is that causes her to feel anxious about driving??
 
A friend of mine suffered from depression (still does but nowhere near as bad now) yet I never knew at the time as he hid it very well, I only knew how bad it was when he cut a limb off with power saw. I remember I was pretty dumbfounded and just couldn't believe it at the time. I'm not sure how you can fake real depression.

Its a very dark and sinister illness.

Tim.
 
Very complicated illness that I would always take a "Pull yourself together Man" attitude to in the past but recently i've come across cases far more complex than that.

I could sometimes feel depressed about my situation occasionally, but then it's not depression, its stress and the trick is to identify/ differentiate between the two. I was unhappy last week. Work was shite and all politics, kids were playing up at home, so i'd no escape from it, so could have therefore become quite easily depressed about it all.

I thought sod 'em all. I booked two days holiday, threw the back pack in the Zed and buggered off. Ended up seeing a friend in Yorkshire I'd not seen for 2 years and actually met Mr Wilks for a mini hoon. too. I Came back relaxed, happier and had avoided telling either the boss or the family to F*** off and being in a worse position !

However, sometimes the body/brain is like an engine. If its running on the wrong mix of chemicals it all goes wrong very easily and you do not feel yourself. Unexplained anxiousness, lack of confidence, etc. It's chemical and not a frame of mind thing and therefore needs to be accepted as an illness and treated with medicine.

The trouble is most medicines have side effects and it all ends up a cocktail of drugs with one counteracting the side effects of others. And then theres the addiction factor to contend with.

Not a nice place to be and thankfully, whilst often pi55ed off with things, people and unhappy, I've never suffered from depression ( just loads of stress !)

Ironically, we've saved two people this year from jumping off our bridge into the Severn. One of them was a youngish lad today who'd overdosed on Uppers and was intending to jump if we hadn't stopped him and got him into an ambulance in time.
 
I suffer with depression and have now finished working after 16/18 hour days, sometimes 7 days per week. Not too many lazy people suffer as they are usually not conscientious enough to care. Depression can be a very nasty illness and because it is not as visible as a broken leg, sometimes not taken seriously.
 
At a previous job we had a mid-20s guy who spent 6 months off work suffering from depression. However the company later found out he was moonlighting as a car park attendant to make more money.

All the while myself and another guy in our team had to work twice as hard to cover the gap.

People often said to me when I was in high school that they felt I was depressed, teachers and peers alike. Went through a bit of a phase in my late teens. Took about 7/8 years to change my perspective but I got there eventually. Never got any help or saw anyone about it..
 
Vbstein said:
Skinhead201 said:
Vbstein said:
Hey Guys

I wanted to get your thoughts on this on this topic. There are some but not many who are genuine with their condition of depression and I accept this.
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I'd like to hear how you come to that conclusion. You and expert on mental health? I detest malingering, lazy cnuts as much as anyone but genuine mental health issues are nothing to be dismissive about or trivialised.
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I know someone who was so depressed she tried to take her own life, so I know that she was genuine. I believe me, dislike lazy sods too.
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Not everyone who suffers from or has suffered from Drepression has suicidal thoughts or tries to kill themselves. Unless your a medical professional who has taken the person in question through a series of questions and spoken to them about their feelings you can't comment on someone's mental state. I would like to think that if someone was depressed that they would 'try' and seek help before they got to the stage they thought they only had the option of suicide.

Yes there are freeloaders out there and there are people who maybe play on an illness to try and justify their actions or lack of.

Yes trying to take your life is a sign of Drepression but it's not the only one and just because someone hasn't had those thoughts or tried to take their own life doesn't mean they aren't 'genuinely' suffered from it.
 
Angie4m said:
Not everyone who suffers from or has suffered from Drepression has suicidal thoughts or tries to kill themselves. Unless your a medical professional who has taken the person in question through a series of questions and spoken to them about their feelings you can't comment on someone's mental state. I would like to think that if someone was depressed that they would 'try' and seek help before they got to the stage they thought they only had the option of suicide.

Yes there are freeloaders out there and there are people who maybe play on an illness to try and justify their actions or lack of.

Yes trying to take your life is a sign of Drepression but it's not the only one and just because someone hasn't had those thoughts or tried to take their own life doesn't mean they aren't 'genuinely' suffered from it.
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Exactly, and I think it comes back to the stigma and non-understanding of the illness.

I was in the "pull yourself together" camp but I've seen what it can do to someone (thankfully temporarily). The illness doesn't discriminate, anyone can experience it and the symptoms can vary.

What I do know, for definite, is that a few people on a forum are not going to be able to determine whether someone is faking it or not.
 
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