Panel Replaced and Repainted- Should I be bothered?

If the history stacks up and you have good feeling then it ok- any slight niggles that would possibly keep you awake, walk.
I suspect not!

Let us know when it arrives :thumbsup:
 
Argyll Andy said:
Did the RAC guy pick up the bonnets had been replaced/painted?

He mentioned it. But I didn't bother going into it with him as he didn't know that it was a more expensive part bolted on.
 
ronk said:
If the history stacks up and you have good feeling then it ok- any slight niggles that would possibly keep you awake, walk.
I suspect not!

I have been thought the history and the MOT's and written them all out on paper.

It hasn't missed a service and it all adds up millage and dates wise.

Have asked the buyer to show me the history on the computer as they have logins to get to it as it's all online rather than printouts.
 
Most cars on the road have had some sort of paintwork done on them, even brand new cars off the dealers yard can have paintwork done to them prior to being delivered as brand new although usually not with replacement panels. So to find a car of this age which hasn't had any paintwork or panel work will be very very rare indeed.

If the repair is done well which is evident here in the RAC report and as indicated the damage before repair wasn't structural and you can't see anything major wrong with it i.e. poor paint colour match, misaligned panels etc. then I wouldn't be too concerned about it. If the damage was minor i.e. new lights, wing maybe bumper and the repair is off good quality then at this age of the car it won't affect the resale value either. Different matter if the car is an appreciating classic with just 10,000 miles on the clock with all original paint and panels for which you will pay a premium and then you go prang it and have it repaired in which case the value will take a knock.

These inspections reports sometimes can put people off what is basically a good car, by making it look like something is a bigger deal than it actually is. The other thing with these reports is most of it is based on a visual inspection since they aren't allowed to take the car apart to give a proper look over.

Years ago when I was trading cars I sold a BMW 5 series to someone who had an inspection done and the inspector that came around told my client not to buy the car because it had some minor paintwork on the front end (similar to this situation) and they also tried to tell the buyer that the car was worth around £1000 less then what I was asking (on a 5k car) due to the repair work, yet what I was asking was the cheapest on Autotrader at the time and below market value. My buyer wanted to buy the car but tried to haggle me down on price due to what the inspector had written. In the end I contacted the inspectors boss and ask him to find me the same car at the price they thought it was worth and I would buy every single on of them if they could, in the end they apologised and went back to my client and told them what I was asking was fair and to buy the car. That idiot inspector tried to tell me the all cars sold on main agent forecourt do not have any paintwork which is totally false. Needless to say I told that chap's boss that that particular inspector would not be allowed on my forecourt ever again!
 
Silverstar said:
Most cars on the road have had some sort of paintwork done on them, even brand new cars off the dealers yard can have paintwork done to them prior to being delivered as brand new although usually not with replacement panels. So to find a car of this age which hasn't had any paintwork or panel work will be very very rare indeed.

If the repair is done well which is evident here in the RAC report and as indicated the damage before repair wasn't structural and you can't see anything major wrong with it i.e. poor paint colour match, misaligned panels etc. then I wouldn't be too concerned about it. If the damage was minor i.e. new lights, wing maybe bumper and the repair is off good quality then at this age of the car it won't affect the resale value either. Different matter if the car is an appreciating classic with just 10,000 miles on the clock with all original paint and panels for which you will pay a premium and then you go prang it and have it repaired in which case the value will take a knock.

These inspections reports sometimes can put people off what is basically a good car, by making it look like something is a bigger deal than it actually is. The other thing with these reports is most of it is based on a visual inspection since they aren't allowed to take the car apart to give a proper look over.

Years ago when I was trading cars I sold a BMW 5 series to someone who had an inspection done and the inspector that came around told my client not to buy the car because it had some minor paintwork on the front end (similar to this situation) and they also tried to tell the buyer that the car was worth around £1000 less then what I was asking (on a 5k car) due to the repair work, yet what I was asking was the cheapest on Autotrader at the time and below market value. My buyer wanted to buy the car but tried to haggle me down on price due to what the inspector had written. In the end I contacted the inspectors boss and ask him to find me the same car at the price they thought it was worth and I would buy every single on of them if they could, in the end they apologised and went back to my client and told them what I was asking was fair and to buy the car. That idiot inspector tried to tell me the all cars sold on main agent forecourt do not have any paintwork which is totally false. Needless to say I told that chap's boss that that particular inspector would not be allowed on my forecourt ever again!

Thank you.

Very detailed response and has out my mind at ease.
 
When did he buy the car, if hes owned it since 2018 he would be the owner when it had the accident. With reg no you can find change of owners here
https://cazana.com/uk/vehicle-check
It comes up as additional events -get a full check
Isn't always correct if got a personal plate on it- e,g my Z4 has the history (MOT and change of ownership) from the car that the plate was on before I bought the car.
Result from above would determine which way I would go- if last change of ownership before 2018 then seller not being honest with you and I'd walk away.
 
Missed a page with reg no on it. Think you have to make your own mind up.
May instincts would be to listen to your dad
V5 will show when owner acquired car -have you had sight of it
 
mgrlane said:
Argyll Andy said:
Did the RAC guy pick up the bonnets had been replaced/painted?

He mentioned it. But I didn't bother going into it with him as he didn't know that it was a more expensive part bolted on.
This makes a lot more sense as to why the whole car may have been painted. If it had a new bonnet and wing the owner must have wanted the rest of the car to look tip top.
In years to come I wonder how many Zs for sale will come back as having paintwork done as there are a lot of owners have paintwork done to tidy up stone chips and not to fix accident damage.
 
How many people go and look at a second hand car with a paint depth gauge, if you can’t see it who else would?

Having worked near the new car terminal you see a few that have broken free during a rough sea crossing on the ship, one or two looked like they had been rallied and rolled others just a bump and dint, these are repaired before going to the dealers as new.

I would like to think the days of newspaper and body filler to fill in holes in bodywork are behind us, and most bodyshops do a good job, the right way with the right materials.
 
Nictrix said:
mgrlane said:
Argyll Andy said:
Did the RAC guy pick up the bonnets had been replaced/painted?

He mentioned it. But I didn't bother going into it with him as he didn't know that it was a more expensive part bolted on.
This makes a lot more sense as to why the whole car may have been painted. If it had a new bonnet and wing the owner must have wanted the rest of the car to look tip top.
In years to come I wonder how many Zs for sale will come back as having paintwork done as there are a lot of owners have paintwork done to tidy up stone chips and not to fix accident damage.

A lot if not nearly all of them. My last car that I bought second hand was an E46 coupe, bought it at 8 years old with just 17,000 miles and it had all original paint and panels, the car literally was like brand spanking new inside and outside! I had the car for around 9 years but in the last two to three years of ownership the mrs went scraped the nearside rear arch against and pillar and then a year later the offside too and soon after some idiot cyclist came bolting down the road and hit the offside rear arch again whilst the car was parked! Meant the car lost all its originality and my interest in it too so it had to go! That car because it was such pristine condition (before the wife and cyclist attacked it) I was very cautious of doing any mods or work to it.

Contrast that to my current E89 which when I bought it I knew had some paint / panel work done to it by one or many of the previous owners yet I know that the work done was purely either cosmetic or light damage and mostly was done to a high standard, what wasn't I had it sorted myself and the car is now near pristine be it without original paint. But this has meant I am not worried about loosing the orignality of the car and as a result I can enjoy the car more without worrying and do the mods on it that I want and if the worse happens and it does get pranged sure I will be upset / annoyed but not in the same way as with the E46.
 
PDJ said:
How many people go and look at a second hand car with a paint depth gauge, if you can’t see it who else would?

Having worked near the new car terminal you see a few that have broken free during a rough sea crossing on the ship, one or two looked like they had been rallied and rolled others just a bump and dint, these are repaired before going to the dealers as new.

I would like to think the days of newspaper and body filler to fill in holes in bodywork are behind us, and most bodyshops do a good job, the right way with the right materials.

You should see some of the work turned out by bodyshops here in Spain, even today too many still can't get it right and quality of work / finish is shocking! Even main dealers are pretty useless, I gave two Fords into my local Ford garage for some minor paint and each time they mismatched the colour! my mate gave his car to them and they mismatch the colour on his too. Luckily I have now found a shop here that does superb quality work at extremely reasonable prices.
 
If it has been done by SL restauration it will be perfect. They are a couple of miles from me and so all the high end cara.

I had my 911 done there to get rid of stone chips
 
It looked perfect guys.

I really appreciated your advice. Had I not had it I would not have a clue what to do today and probably not got it.

I like to think I have a good eye for paint after becoming obsessed with the pain on my Z and I couldn't spot a thing. The car was better than the pictures, stacks of paperwork and clearly wanted nothing.
 

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ronk said:
Enjoy a road trip as soon as you can!

Thanks buddy.

The trip back was half me crapping myself sat there in comfort mode and the other half plucking up the courage for spot plus and then it rained.

Great cruiser. I can't say I have really stretched her legs.
 
Congratulations, now go and enjoy it and set up a standing order for half your wages to go into a separate tyre and fuel account :driving: :thumbsup:
 
mgrlane said:
ronk said:
Enjoy a road trip as soon as you can!

Thanks buddy.

The trip back was half me crapping myself sat there in comfort mode and the other half plucking up the courage for spot plus and then it rained.

Great cruiser. I can't say I have really stretched her legs.

When we are allowed to travel- get yourself and the car over to Germany. It’s far from the free for all some would have you believe but there remains some de restricted sections.

You don’t have to go flat out / Vmax to enjoy a fast car but to sit at 100/120 mph is a pleasant experience. Although not particularly fast, it is a good balance between speed and relaxation.

Still got to have your wits about you tho!
 
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