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Nictrix

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Anybody stay there?
Just been reading about the 15 minute cities that are being planned for 2024 but there seems to be videos out there that show it has started already.
Reading the plans it seems to have everything counted for except people leaving to go to their workplace.
It seems an utterly bonkers idea that is set to cater for the minority (30%) in Oxfordshire that apparently dont own any vehicles.
 
15 minute cities, hardly seems worth the effort, why not make it last a whole year :idunno:
 
sars said:
15 minute cities, hardly seems worth the effort, why not make it last a whole year :idunno:
:D It doesnt last for 15 minutes, you are restricted to travelling more than 15 minutes from your home.
 
Nictrix said:
It doesnt last for 15 minutes, you are restricted to travelling more than 15 minutes from your home.
Is it Oxfordshire, or around Oxford? Oxford City Council have been anti-car for at least the last 25 years.

Most of Oxfordshire is pretty rural, so can't see how they could make that work. :?
 
Pondrew said:
Nictrix said:
It doesnt last for 15 minutes, you are restricted to travelling more than 15 minutes from your home.
Is it Oxfordshire, or around Oxford? Oxford City Council have been anti-car for at least the last 25 years.

Most of Oxfordshire is pretty rural, so can't see how they could make that work. :?
All I read was Oxfordshire, apparently going to create 6 x 15 minute cities.
Just wondered if its true or bull, and also if the stories of locals ripping up the barriers to get through are real also.
The thoughts seem to be that during covid people were restricted by where they went and survived so if it continued everybody would benefit by staying in a cleaner area.
 
Nictrix said:
Pondrew said:
Nictrix said:
It doesnt last for 15 minutes, you are restricted to travelling more than 15 minutes from your home.
Is it Oxfordshire, or around Oxford? Oxford City Council have been anti-car for at least the last 25 years.

Most of Oxfordshire is pretty rural, so can't see how they could make that work. :?
All I read was Oxfordshire, apparently going to create 6 x 15 minute cities.
Just wondered if its true or bull, and also if the stories of locals ripping up the barriers to get through are real also.
The thoughts seem to be that during covid people were restricted by where they went and survived so if it continued everybody would benefit by staying in a cleaner area.

I think you're talking about the LTN zones which are very controversial. Lots of people ripping up bollards...
 
Oxford City and Oxfordshire County Council have been run by aging hippies ever since I can remember.
The WFH trend, one of the most affluent Counties in the UK (so councils have plenty of money) and their left-wing agenda add up to this type of shite IMHO.

Glad to be well out of it TBH. I now live in a County where laws are optional it would seem. :thumbsup:
 
Whilst I don’t like the idea of zoned restrictions (it all sounds a bit ‘hunger games’ to me) having a more regular distribution of facilities for inner city living, could work out well if it was properly thought out.

Done correctly, you wouldn’t need to penalize people as they would automatically shop locally and only travel further afield when absolutely necessary (Putting a system in place for zoning, tracking and penalizing people, smacks of planned failure in order to generate revenue). It could also be used to encourage a resurgence of smaller, independent businesses as larger chains would need multiple stores to cover a city, thus negating some of their price advantages.

Unfortunately, I doubt they’ve worked out the details and will just force it into action through fear and punishment. Good old eco-mentalists…
 
Smacks of Communism to me, stopping freedom of movement and choice. It would make me feel hemmed in.
 
MikeyH said:
Smacks of Communism to me, stopping freedom of movement and choice. It would make me feel hemmed in.

This for me and the fact you can only leave your zone 100 times per household with a visa and are then fined if you go over - not great if you both work 10 miles away inapposite directions.

All about tasing funds - people are going to revolt against this as the extension to ULEZ in Londonovich
 
It's reported that some local councils are not giving permission for Tsar Khan to erect the cameras to enforce the system. So all a bit pointless for him.

Londoners don't get any sympathy from me. They voted for him :)
 
Did anyone other than me take the trouble to google this "story" to get the facts?
#1 It's Oxford City rather than the county of Oxfordshire
#2 The city gets carved into 6 zones. If you don't live there you don't get to move from one zone to another directly. Instead you head back out to the ring-road and go around. It's a s**t ring-road so ...good luck with that.... but the journey isn't entirely prohibited.
#3 If you live there, you get a limited number of passes DIRECTLY from zone to zone. You still have the option of going out, around and back in without restriction.

Just to be clear, I'm absolutely not in favour of this kind of nonsense. I bothered to google only because I was appalled at the idea. A 'carrot' approach to build viable local communities would achieve far more than putting barriers up, but none of what I've just written is evident from previous posts on this thread so hopefully this adds a bit of clarity :)
 
That does make things a lot clearer but still not good.
Its possibly making people travel further to get from A to B.
 
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