over 70's extended isolation

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Even at 71 I know there are quite a few forum members older than me - I keep hearing talk that " for our own health " over 70's will need to be shielded when the present lockdown begins to be relaxed even suggesting that we will need to remain in our homes isolated until a vaccine is available that could be until the Autumn of 2021 - listening to Prat Handcock today he didn't rule it out - if he had a brain he would be dangerous ! there are over 6 million over 70 year olds in the UK ! as much as I am grateful for Prat for his concern for my health it is up to me to decide if I want to risk my health or not ! Clearly I would be socially distancing myself sensibly as everyone will until a vaccine is found but I will not lock myself away from everyone especially my grandchildren - also that's 6 million votes these dickheads will not get at the next election.
 
As a fellow wrinkly I hear what you say and like you, I dearly miss my two granddaughters - I can see some relaxation of the regime in the next few months - However one is of infant school age and the other is about to go to nursery. They are the very ones who could infect us - I don't think they will understand why they shouldn't give Nana and Grandop a cuddle after all these weeks.
 
My next door neighbour here in NL is well over 70, obese to the point of ridiculousness and has an obvious respiratory illness from the constant honking and coughing i can hear.
As far as I can ascertain, him and his similarly grumpy, obese wife are looking after 2 grand-toddlerbrats during the week for their frontline worker parents.
No sign of either of them keeling over and kicking it after 6 weeks. Still parking his car as close as he can to mine. Still as grumpy and rabunctious as ever.

Calculated risk? Or just hype denial/ignorance?
 
This notion has been put about for a couple of weeks now. As a 72 year old I was filled with equal measures of horror and disgust that such an idea could be suggested.

I won't do it and I don't think many of the rest of us wrinklies will.
 
ronk said:
I thought you’d sorted the parking game he was playing?
He's still being a d!ck.
He's also taken to chopping away at the ivy on the back of my back gate and piling it up against my back gate for me to clear away.
I kicked it all over to his side for him to dispose of, the cheeky presumptious fekker. If he starts up I'll tell him to chop away at his own fkg ivy, lol.
But I just mostly ignore it. There's more to life.
:roll:
 
Unsure its the British Gov't people should be moanng at but maybe China's. If you're of a certain age there's two choices whilst there's no vaccine, either stay indoors and keep away from any source of infection or say sod it and run the risk. Going by the way the virus is sweeping through care homes I think staying in isolation is the only safe bet. Yes it sucks but what is your alternative?

It seems the reason why the lockdown is working so well is the majority of the population are now terrified catching the wretched thing.

It will be interesting to see how people cope once lockdown is eased, seems 30% ofthe population fear going back to work, 40% or so don't want their kids back in school, equally seems just under half the population fear going to retail outlets now, who knows.

After watching a programme the other night on virus video diaries it appears to be serious at any age, underlying health problems or not.

Until there is a vaccine the only way I see things improving is getting the whole population tested and carriers quarrantined.

Tim.
 
ronk said:
As a fellow wrinkly I hear what you say and like you, I dearly miss my two granddaughters - I can see some relaxation of the regime in the next few months - However one is of infant school age and the other is about to go to nursery. They are the very ones who could infect us - I don't think they will understand why they shouldn't give Nana and Grandop a cuddle after all these weeks.

We have 7 grandchildren scattered across the country - we obviously haven't seen them for several months and several planned trips have had to be cancelled - I understand that to see them and cuddle the small ones would put my wife and I at a higher risk but it comes to a time when that risk is worth taking particularly if you are fit and well despite your age - each year is precious at any age but as you get older it becomes even more important to live life to the full otherwise it's pointless.
 
It’s difficult for sure and one thing is certain - there’s no correct answer!
One thing I have decided is I will try to avoid any prevarication in future.
 
I have no time Boris and his buddies in gov,what he is doing is playing for time.You might not care if you get it ,what of the people you could possibly infect ,like health workers,care workers etc who are daily putting their neck on line confronting this deadly diesease..They are not saying you have to incarcerate yourself ,just not take unessary risks.In my view it's not asking to much.I am in the over 70 age group and would like to stay alive as long as possible and I would hate to think I caused the death of some one with my reckless behaviour .
 
maxman said:
I have no time Boris and his buddies in gov,what he is doing is playing for time.You might not care if you get it ,what of the people you could possibly infect ,like health workers,care workers etc who are daily putting their neck on line confronting this deadly diesease..They are not saying you have to incarcerate yourself ,just not take unessary risks.In my view it's not asking to much.I am in the over 70 age group and would like to stay alive as long as possible and I would hate to think I caused the death of some one with my reckless behaviour .

I think you have missed my point in that as the lockdown is relaxed the fear is that over 70's are assessed to be highly vulnerable and should be shielded for their own protection not that they are more likely to infect someone else which is why it should be advisory not compulsory when everyone else at that point are free to go on with their lives albeit being sensible about social distancing
 
gov said:
maxman said:
I have no time Boris and his buddies in gov,what he is doing is playing for time.You might not care if you get it ,what of the people you could possibly infect ,like health workers,care workers etc who are daily putting their neck on line confronting this deadly diesease..They are not saying you have to incarcerate yourself ,just not take unessary risks.In my view it's not asking to much.I am in the over 70 age group and would like to stay alive as long as possible and I would hate to think I caused the death of some one with my reckless behaviour .

I think you have missed my point in that as the lockdown is relaxed the fear is that over 70's are assessed to be highly vulnerable and should be shielded for their own protection not that they are more likely to infect someone else which is why it should be advisory not compulsory when everyone else at that point are free to go on with their lives albeit being sensible about social distancing

Ok,I get what you are saying
 
We’ve just got to hope the boffins come up with a vaccine soon - however I think a treatment is probably the most likely at this time. If a treatment is found I would feel considerably more relaxed about a relaxation.
 
Chris_D said:
ronk said:
I thought you’d sorted the parking game he was playing?
He's still being a d!ck.
He's also taken to chopping away at the ivy on the back of my back gate and piling it up against my back gate for me to clear away.
I kicked it all over to his side for him to dispose of, the cheeky presumptious fekker. If he starts up I'll tell him to chop away at his own fkg ivy, lol.
But I just mostly ignore it. There's more to life.
:roll:

Maybe you 'll get lucky and the phuker will die :thumbsup:
Or be mean and start coughing often and obviously, on his car handle and such. Worry him to death :rofl:
 
scootr said:
Chris_D said:
ronk said:
I thought you’d sorted the parking game he was playing?
He's still being a d!ck.
He's also taken to chopping away at the ivy on the back of my back gate and piling it up against my back gate for me to clear away.
I kicked it all over to his side for him to dispose of, the cheeky presumptious fekker. If he starts up I'll tell him to chop away at his own fkg ivy, lol.
But I just mostly ignore it. There's more to life.
:roll:

Maybe you 'll get lucky and the phuker will die :thumbsup:
Or be mean and start coughing often and obviously, on his car handle and such. Worry him to death :rofl:

Thanks for the sentiment but I wouldn’t wish death on anyone, esp not from something like this.

I’m actually surprised he hasn’t expired from an ulcer from winding himself up over living next door to me. I’m convinced he sits there in his house, grinding his teeth, plotting his next move to try and provoke or antagonise me whilst his wife eggs him on.
Maybe the fact that I don’t rise to any of it magnifies his annoyance?
:lol: :evil:
 
Chris_D said:
As far as I can ascertain, him and his similarly grumpy, obese wife are looking after 2 grand-toddlerbrats during the week for their frontline worker parents.
Still as grumpy and rabunctious as ever.
And you’re not grumpy? :poke:
 
Dav the wheel nut said:
Chris_D said:
As far as I can ascertain, him and his similarly grumpy, obese wife are looking after 2 grand-toddlerbrats during the week for their frontline worker parents.
Still as grumpy and rabunctious as ever.
And you’re not grumpy? :poke:
Nope.
When you’ve been in ICU for 3 months and coming close to kicking it yourself, you tend to have a more positive outlook on life coming out the other side and appreciate the things most people take for granted.

Like many others I suppose I could have a few things to be grumpy about; primarily that my company is in limbo due to all capex projects being put on hold by my clients, which means I had to lay off staff and I’m hemorrhaging money in overhead. I don’t qualify for assistance which means I’ll probably have to shut down if the situation doesnt improve in the next 2 months. Consequently, this has a direct effect on my personal income and financial obligations.

But you know what? I don’t care. Apart from one dodgy eye, I still have all my faculties. I still get to enjoy riding a bike, breathing fresh air, seeing the flowers and pootling around in the zed from time to time. Life’s too short to be grumpy and resentful. I wish my neighbour had a similar outlook.
:thumbsup:

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ronk said:
We’ve just got to hope the boffins come up with a vaccine soon - however I think a treatment is probably the most likely at this time.

Why do you think a treatment for C-19 is more likely than a vaccine? What's the evidence for that point of view?
 
exdos said:
ronk said:
We’ve just got to hope the boffins come up with a vaccine soon - however I think a treatment is probably the most likely at this time.

Why do you think a treatment for C-19 is more likely than a vaccine? What's the evidence for that point of view?

NHS Blood and Transplant have started to collect plasma from donors who have recovered from C-19 for use in a trial treating patients seriously ill with it. There is quite a lot of hope that it will be successful.

If anybody on here feels so inclined they are looking for more donors - currently 6,500 have signed up to donate. If you are between 17 and 66, over 50kg, not previously transfused and live near one of their 23 donor centres they would like to hear from you.

https://www.nhsbt.nhs.uk/how-you-can-help/convalescent-plasma-clinical-trial/

The process takes around 40 minutes. As a platelet donor of many years standing (a similar process that takes around 60 minutes) I can tell you it doesn't hurt and is completely safe.
 
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