On Autotrader Sepang Bronze Z4MR
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This car can be no worse than buying an ex-demonstrator from a dealer, doesn't stop people buying them if they believe they are getting a bargain
As usual there is some serious over reaction on here, as long as its not been crashed, all the mechanical components will be fine, its just the wearable item's that will have had their life drastically reduced.
pmsl Perry, great banter guys keep it up
oh and how does taking a vernier on a date go as proper etiquette?
As usual there is some serious over reaction on here, as long as its not been crashed, all the mechanical components will be fine, its just the wearable item's that will have had their life drastically reduced.
pmsl Perry, great banter guys keep it up
oh and how does taking a vernier on a date go as proper etiquette?
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sars said:
Really? How do you know that? Have you seen the car, are you a mechanic?
We usually all take a risk buying any car not really knowing it's full history to a degree, the point is it's usually a 50/50 gamble, here we 100% know it's been thrashed by it's previous owner. For some people, that's fine, no problem, and I'm sure it'll sell regardless (although I doubt at the asking price), but I don't want to see a car I'm going to buy burning out on the spot for 10 seconds. It just strikes me as someone who likes showing off to his mates, in which case what else has the car done if the fella's a bit of a show off in his cars? I don't think there's an overreaction on either side tbh, but either way I'm sure it'll sell before too long.
The bottom line on this sale is that it is really down to personal choice.
The seller has not hidden the fact that, at times, it has been driven hard.
Some buyers will, having seen the videos choose not to purchase it, whilst others may take a more open and liberal view and consider it a car they would like to own despite its history if purchased at the right price.
Personally it wouldn't be for me as I tend to be somewhat anal as to the condition of the cars I own cosmetically and mechanically and would not take the risk, knowing the way the vehicle has been driven it MAY lead me to some expensive bills in the future.
Just my humble opinion as I approach my 2000th post.
The seller has not hidden the fact that, at times, it has been driven hard.
Some buyers will, having seen the videos choose not to purchase it, whilst others may take a more open and liberal view and consider it a car they would like to own despite its history if purchased at the right price.
Personally it wouldn't be for me as I tend to be somewhat anal as to the condition of the cars I own cosmetically and mechanically and would not take the risk, knowing the way the vehicle has been driven it MAY lead me to some expensive bills in the future.
Just my humble opinion as I approach my 2000th post.
Okay I've kept quiet until now but do want to say that yes, this was previously my car and Ross is a standup guy who loves cars. He may have driven this MR beyond the realms of where most people are willing to take them, but it's nothing a simple check over wouldn't confirm for a potential buyer and ultimately these cars can take it (and often more on track days).
If it all checks out, last time I looked, attitude and driving style shouldn't put off a potentially decent buy for a low mileage rare car and he's been honest enough to come back to everyone and make his case. If it's not something you're comfortable with as a buyer then that's fine but personally as I say, if it checks out then there's a semi-unicorn there for somebody.
Lastly; Taz [ignoring your inkey$ driving skills comment!], go for it. You know you want to really!
GLWTS and it would be great to see this car remain on the forum.
If it all checks out, last time I looked, attitude and driving style shouldn't put off a potentially decent buy for a low mileage rare car and he's been honest enough to come back to everyone and make his case. If it's not something you're comfortable with as a buyer then that's fine but personally as I say, if it checks out then there's a semi-unicorn there for somebody.
Lastly; Taz [ignoring your inkey$ driving skills comment!], go for it. You know you want to really!
GLWTS and it would be great to see this car remain on the forum.
Thanks David, the car really is a gem. I'm not going to argue my case anyway as I really don't mind keeping the car, just it would help me out towards a mortgage if it sold and I think that selling is the sensible thing to do. If you're interested, I can promise you will not find a thing wrong with the car or even signs of wear anywhere except the normal wear for about 500 miles on the tyres. The only issues are the small car park dents shown in David's original for sale post. Nothing has changed. Again, thanks David for your input.
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mattwaltersz4m
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sars said:
1-nil
sars said:
Lol, fair enough, then you'll probably agree on me asking how you can say the mechanical components on a car you haven't seen are 'fine' , without even inspecting it.....is my actual point.
I'm not trying to 'point score' off you, merely saying that there's no way anyone could say with any degree of 'fact' that it's mechanically sound without having personally inspected it.
Sorted for you Stevie boy :wink:
AndyBeech said:
Because all engineering design includes a safety factor, admittedly the aviation industries is pretty low, 1.1 times, but automotive will be at least 3 times. So think of what a car has to survive on a daily basis, speed bumps and pot holes, then factor in that suspensions components need to be pretty rigid, too much flex will alter the cars balance and handling and so these parts are substantially over engineered, same as the mounts that hold them.
So no I haven't seen the car, and that's why I said unless it has been in a crash, these mechanical parts will not have been shocked in a way that would cause them to fail, that is by rapid deceleration.
All said and done, potential buyers will now know the history of the car, it doesn't do any harm to get it inspected for the buyers piece of mind and that's all it is really
mattwaltersz4m
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Taz said:
There must be, look at all the smoke, the OUT OF CONTROL drifting - think of the melting components :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: