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Just driven my mates car - what a machine!!!
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Trust me my gorgeous SI is going nowhere 
It was just a nice car to drive and it sounded great. Just want to pull the exhaust note out on mine now
It was just a nice car to drive and it sounded great. Just want to pull the exhaust note out on mine now
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No doubt that RS4 is very fast and they do sound great 
but once the new car novelty has worn off all the VAGs I've driven have, in one way or the other, felt dead behind the eyes when it comes to driver involvement. Steering and handling manage to consistently come across as sterile and numb. They do nothing for me unfortunately. Maybe the RS4 is different, but given the choice (chance would be a fine thing) I'd take a fast BMW without hesitation.
but once the new car novelty has worn off all the VAGs I've driven have, in one way or the other, felt dead behind the eyes when it comes to driver involvement. Steering and handling manage to consistently come across as sterile and numb. They do nothing for me unfortunately. Maybe the RS4 is different, but given the choice (chance would be a fine thing) I'd take a fast BMW without hesitation.
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Funny and intriguing.
My Daughter who is in car sales and as you may imagine gets to drive all sorts of cars came home last night enthusing about the RS3 she had just driven from one dealership to another.
She is not a typical girly girl she very much takes after myself and my wife, we like cars!
She said without doubt its the most "interesting" car she has ever driven and apparently it took her twice as long as normal to get where she was going
My Daughter who is in car sales and as you may imagine gets to drive all sorts of cars came home last night enthusing about the RS3 she had just driven from one dealership to another.
She is not a typical girly girl she very much takes after myself and my wife, we like cars!
She said without doubt its the most "interesting" car she has ever driven and apparently it took her twice as long as normal to get where she was going
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I'd agree with the sterile / numb steering and feel and, let's face it, it's a glorified A4. Like I say for me it's that engine note - I love V8's!!
Strangely enough I had this very conversation with a friend only a couple of days ago and for me my SI is the best car I've owned (and I've had some nice cars) only narrowly beaten by my RS2
Strangely enough I had this very conversation with a friend only a couple of days ago and for me my SI is the best car I've owned (and I've had some nice cars) only narrowly beaten by my RS2
Simon Blythe said:Trust me my gorgeous SI is going nowhere
I can help with that :roll:
Back on topic though, I know what you mean about the understeer. At the end of the day, these are really front wheel drive, with power diverted to the rear when needed, subject to a max of 60/40 F/R so although they grip, they are never going to feel the same as "proper" RWD car. BUT, it's all about safety and making the driver feel secure. Horses for courses. I noticed recently when looking at cars with my friend, that the AMG C43 is AWD, but the C63 he bought is RWD..
Mike
Boris said:I think they were listening to the general train of thought
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/audi-rs-models-to-go-rear-wheel-drive/ar-BBDr5Rx?li=AA8sb7&ocid=spartanntp
LOL!! Interesting quote by the head of Audi Sport in that article, which to me pretty much sums up Audi drivers..
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Ducklakeview said:Boris said:I think they were listening to the general train of thought
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/audi-rs-models-to-go-rear-wheel-drive/ar-BBDr5Rx?li=AA8sb7&ocid=spartanntp
LOL!! Interesting quote by the head of Audi Sport in that article, which to me pretty much sums up Audi drivers..
Mike
Oye,
I myself have been an Audi driver since 1991, however I have defected this year in buying a new E Class Estate and then the Z4 for sunny days 
Agree with the sentiment on here....my wife loves a fast Audi (we've had the TTs, TTRS) because they're safe and predictable, but driving one after a BMW they feel so dull and boring. However, I'd admit they're a better daily driver in this country though.
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When I've saved up Mike
Ducklakeview said:Simon Blythe said:Trust me my gorgeous SI is going nowhere
I can help with that :roll:
Back on topic though, I know what you mean about the understeer. At the end of the day, these are really front wheel drive, with power diverted to the rear when needed, subject to a max of 60/40 F/R so although they grip, they are never going to feel the same as "proper" RWD car. BUT, it's all about safety and making the driver feel secure. Horses for courses. I noticed recently when looking at cars with my friend, that the AMG C43 is AWD, but the C63 he bought is RWD..
Mike
The B7 RS4 default torque split is 60% rear bias, increasing to 80% if conditions demand it. It's one of the few Audis that doesn't have the characteristic Audi understeer and handles remarkably well for a 1.8 ton car thanks largely to the active dampers.
Cross country on damp, poorly made roads it would show a clean pair of heels to a contemporary M3 or my Z4M.
It's one of the last cars that will mate a high revving (8250rpm) naturally aspirated V8 to a manual only gearbox outside of a supercar. The engine is a remarkable piece of engineering too, although direct injection is not without problems.
I'm all for Audi-hating, but that's one car that shouldn't be underestimated or dismissed out of hand.