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I've been using the internet for nigh on 30 years and long ago came to the conclusion that it's just not worth getting involved. Throw an idle spear if you're bored but otherwise shrug and get on with someone more important.
 
sp3ctre said:
Interesting feedback from all, I appreciate it… Here’s a little insight into my thinking…

I started this forum in 2007 and from the start I aimed to keep it as open as possible. I had been a member of several forums where the admin and mods ruled with an iron fist and a massive ban-hammer… I hated it.. it was like small man syndrome, treating grown adults like kids!

I know this may be controversial, but there seems to be a need nowadays for everywhere to be a safe space and everyone to walk on eggshells so as not to offend… personally moderating a forum on that basis is both tiresome and it sucks the life out of it.

That said, my approach has perhaps been a little too laid back and resulted in things going a bit too far.

What I want is people to be free to say what they want, joke around (within limits) and have fun while maintaining respect for each other.

We went several years without banning anyone, and I really hope that we can consider this a reboot and nobody will get banned again. I don’t want people to feel like I am over-moderating or turning this place into a creche like a lot of other forums.

Thanks again for the feedback guys!
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I think you are doing a really good job. Only my wife is perfect ( or so she keeps telling me). But I think you manage to achieve a pretty good balance.:thumbsup:
 
enuff_zed said:
ori said:
So I was one of the people banned. I don’t disagree with my ban as I reacted to someone who has been a constant thorn with abusive posts including racist, homophonic and antisemitic posts. I shouldn’t have reacted and I apologise for that. I don’t agree that the main culprit got the same ban as the 2 of us who responded.

Just in my defence. I had messaged the moderator over a year ago about this person and the reply I got “I’m staying out of it”.
Said instigator has had fallouts with many users and has always been abusive and disgusting.
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Lesson learned? Don’t bite. Set him as a Foe and disregard anything that slips through.
But can we all accept you’ve made your point and please don’t use this thread to perpetuate it.
Life is too short.
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See, I kinda agree with you, but I can only speak about the antisemitism as that is a personal thing. For years, the mantra of the Jewish people was if we ignore it then it will go away. Don’t fight it. How did that work out for us?
So now I have the view that I call it out and fight it out when I see it. Turns out that people don’t like it when we fight back.

If said person continues with his vile posts, I will point it out to a mod and if said mod says I’m not getting involved again the. I will.
 
sars said:
and that's what I did, my first Foe, sage advice
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Does it not alert you that your 'foe' has posted or replied on a thread, though?

If so, it wouldn't work for me as I'm too nosey. I would want to see what's been said! :oops:
 
[ref]Pondrew[/ref], If you get a notification that one of your foe's has posted, that would be counter productive as you said. I believe/hoping that if your foe post, it is obscured so you cannot read it, only if someone quotes that post does it become visible. I'll let you know, I'm hoping though they just disappear into the wilderness :tumbleweed:
 
ori said:
Why not ban them from the forum?
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If you ban them completely then there’s a high chance they will return under a different username. Then you ban that username, they return again.
 
ori said:
See, I kinda agree with you, but I can only speak about the antisemitism as that is a personal thing. For years, the mantra of the Jewish people was if we ignore it then it will go away. Don’t fight it. How did that work out for us?
So now I have the view that I call it out and fight it out when I see it. Turns out that people don’t like it when we fight back.

If said person continues with his vile posts, I will point it out to a mod and if said mod says I’m not getting involved again the. I will.
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I'm going to address this once, as I don't want to get into a debate/discussion about it.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into who is worse than who, who deserves a bigger ban etc. I have a full time job and a family, so I don't have the capacity for this.

I have considered this a fresh start, so it makes no odds what happened in the past, just what happens from today.

If you or any of the others want to fight then please have the balls to just PM each other with your whatsapp number and take it off-line. I'm sure the rest of us will catch up with the details of your battle when we read about the big fight on the national news.... or maybe you are all just full of hot air :rofl:

Honestly, this is all beyond ridiculous.... not seen anything like it since I was at school. You all know you aren't going to fight or you would have done it already.

Now, please can we stop with the nonsense and get back to polite discussion and banter :thumbsup:
 
sp3ctre said:
ori said:
See, I kinda agree with you, but I can only speak about the antisemitism as that is a personal thing. For years, the mantra of the Jewish people was if we ignore it then it will go away. Don’t fight it. How did that work out for us?
So now I have the view that I call it out and fight it out when I see it. Turns out that people don’t like it when we fight back.

If said person continues with his vile posts, I will point it out to a mod and if said mod says I’m not getting involved again the. I will.
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I'm going to address this once, as I don't want to get into a debate/discussion about it.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into who is worse than who, who deserves a bigger ban etc. I have a full time job and a family, so I don't have the capacity for this.

I have considered this a fresh start, so it makes no odds what happened in the past, just what happens from today.

If you or any of the others want to fight then please have the balls to just PM each other with your whatsapp number and take it off-line. I'm sure the rest of us will catch up with the details of your battle when we read about the big fight on the national news.... or maybe you are all just full of hot air :rofl:

Honestly, this is all beyond ridiculous.... not seen anything like it since I was at school. You all know you aren't going to fight or you would have done it already.

Now, please can we stop with the nonsense and get back to polite discussion and banter :thumbsup:
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enuff_zed said:
Now, please can we stop with the nonsense and get back to polite discussion and banter
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I can do the latter, not so good with the other TBH. :roll:
Wasn't you Martin, I know. Quoted the wrong post. :headbang:
 
sp3ctre said:
ori said:
See, I kinda agree with you, but I can only speak about the antisemitism as that is a personal thing. For years, the mantra of the Jewish people was if we ignore it then it will go away. Don’t fight it. How did that work out for us?
So now I have the view that I call it out and fight it out when I see it. Turns out that people don’t like it when we fight back.

If said person continues with his vile posts, I will point it out to a mod and if said mod says I’m not getting involved again the. I will.
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I'm going to address this once, as I don't want to get into a debate/discussion about it.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into who is worse than who, who deserves a bigger ban etc. I have a full time job and a family, so I don't have the capacity for this.

I have considered this a fresh start, so it makes no odds what happened in the past, just what happens from today.

If you or any of the others want to fight then please have the balls to just PM each other with your whatsapp number and take it off-line. I'm sure the rest of us will catch up with the details of your battle when we read about the big fight on the national news.... or maybe you are all just full of hot air :rofl:

Honestly, this is all beyond ridiculous.... not seen anything like it since I was at school. You all know you aren't going to fight or you would have done it already.

Now, please can we stop with the nonsense and get back to polite discussion and banter :thumbsup:
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Sorry, but if you don’t have time to deal with someone who posts racists posts then you need help moderating and should get some people here who would be happy to help.

I am sorry I threatened him. I really am.
I’m not interested in seeing his vile homophonic posts, not his racists posts nor his antisemitic posts. If posts like that are allowed here on this forum, then I have no place here either.
 
ori said:
sp3ctre said:
ori said:
See, I kinda agree with you, but I can only speak about the antisemitism as that is a personal thing. For years, the mantra of the Jewish people was if we ignore it then it will go away. Don’t fight it. How did that work out for us?
So now I have the view that I call it out and fight it out when I see it. Turns out that people don’t like it when we fight back.

If said person continues with his vile posts, I will point it out to a mod and if said mod says I’m not getting involved again the. I will.
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I'm going to address this once, as I don't want to get into a debate/discussion about it.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into who is worse than who, who deserves a bigger ban etc. I have a full time job and a family, so I don't have the capacity for this.

I have considered this a fresh start, so it makes no odds what happened in the past, just what happens from today.

If you or any of the others want to fight then please have the balls to just PM each other with your whatsapp number and take it off-line. I'm sure the rest of us will catch up with the details of your battle when we read about the big fight on the national news.... or maybe you are all just full of hot air :rofl:

Honestly, this is all beyond ridiculous.... not seen anything like it since I was at school. You all know you aren't going to fight or you would have done it already.

Now, please can we stop with the nonsense and get back to polite discussion and banter :thumbsup:
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Sorry, but if you don’t have time to deal with someone who posts racists posts then you need help moderating and should get some people here who would be happy to help.

I am sorry I threatened him. I really am.
I’m not interested in seeing his vile homophonic posts, not his racists posts nor his antisemitic posts. If posts like that are allowed here on this forum, then I have no place here either.
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Could not agree more Ori....there's only so much hate someone can take. :thumbsup:
 
ori said:
I am sorry I threatened him. I really am.
I’m not interested in seeing his vile homophonic posts, not his racists posts nor his antisemitic posts. If posts like that are allowed here on this forum, then I have no place here either.
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As many people have advised, just set him as a foe. You won't need to see anything.
He is also the only one of the 'three' who hasn't logged on today. Maybe he has learned his lesson?? Maybe he will never log on again!

Criticising the admin is NOT going to help you, mate.
As said earlier, just let it lie and move on.
 
Pondrew said:
ori said:
I am sorry I threatened him. I really am.
I’m not interested in seeing his vile homophonic posts, not his racists posts nor his antisemitic posts. If posts like that are allowed here on this forum, then I have no place here either.
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As many people have advised, just set him as a foe. You won't need to see anything.
He is also the only one of the 'three' who hasn't logged on today. Maybe he has learned his lesson?? Maybe he will never log on again!

Criticising the admin is NOT going to help you, mate.
As said earlier, just let it lie and move on.
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That's a fair point on the foe thing Pondy, but the crap Ori has had could have been avoided with a permanent ban, the offender made a very nasty personal attack on Ori for no reason other than Ori stood up for himself in the G29 section and had that attack deleted, I saw it, then a full racist 'Joke' deleted, then another anti semitism attack on Ori deleted all within approx a week, how much more has there got to be before action is taken..? In this instance seemingly lots as nothing was done even though posts were deleted, a lot could have been avoided with either a warning or a ban.
 
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